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So you are saying NFL teams that need help at CB should give him a call. :wink:

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It usually depends on who’s series the fight takes place. Although it is pretty much common knowledge due to the magic Iron Fist is more powerful but base Shang Chi (he has been given and stripped of powers through out his existence) is the most skilled non alien martial artist on the planet. It is usually his honor, being on a spy mission or some other bull that cause him to lose.

Iron fist had good runs and bad runs, but he really ends up jobbing SO often when he guests stars in other people’s books. I believe Punisher has been more consistent and impressive in hand to hand than Iron Fist, I recall him taking on some pretty decent fighters and not getting owned for free.

Though I recall an avengers/Captain America were Iron Fist beats up Captain America like it’s his job so… :man_shrugging:

Yikes…

if it helps the original x-men trilogy has always sucked. really every x-men movie but Logan has sucked.

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I disagree with them all sucking… Logan is without a doubt the first and so far only GREAT X-Men movie but X2, First Class, Days of Future Past and the Deadpool films are all very good, probably could have been better but they don’t suck.

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I don’t really count Deadpool as x-men related movies. Having low to mid tier X characters along side him doesn’t classify them as X-Movies to me. That’s like saying Homecoming is an Iron-Man movie; Thor Ragnarok is a hulk movie or Captain America civil war is an avengers movie to me.

I also wouldn’t classify either of them as good. They’re entertaining but I wouldn’t classify them as good.

I hated first class and DoFP. X2 was a horribly weak script carried by phenomenal actors in Patrick Stewart, Alan Cumming, Brian Cox and Ian McKellen

I generally have liked X-Men movies more than the MCU movies.

But there are some terribly awful movies there too.

Xmen Apoc is X3 tier. I honestly think X2 is a great Xmen flick. First Class definitely overperformed and it was a nice surprise. I see DoFP as very serviceable imo, not that great on its own merit. Logan is kinda like the Nolan movies in the sense that it feels more like a regular drama movie that happens to be about comic book heroes than a comic book hero movie. I know it sounds like the same thing but think about it and youll see what i mean. I was greatly surprised by it too. Dark Phoenix was mediocre but not the worst of the franchise(s) as media claimed. To this day I still think Disney plays a major role on reviews and “word of mouth” when it comes to non Disney movies.

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logan and the deadpool movies are the only ones that matter

Dark Phoenix got a lot of shit but it’s fine if u look at it as a pure action film. And it’s easily better than Origins, X3 and Apocalypse by a mile

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I still remember saying to myself “…yup” when I was in XMen Apoc and I saw that little “thank you for watching the movie” vignette before the movie came on. I just felt the movie was going to be bad, and it was.

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After all these years, X2 is still my favorite superhero movie of all time. DoFP is close behind.

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If I had to pic my favorite X films (not including Deadpool even tho it’s technically X films). X2, DoFP, and Logan. Behind those, probably The Wolverine and First Class

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The Wolverine is very underrated. I know the movie takes a nosedive with Mecha samurai but overall it was really good.

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I appreciate the fact they low key connected that movie to Logan

Maybe I missed something, how did they do that?

They predicted his death in wolverine and it happened in Logan. Totally could be a coincidence but I don’t think so.

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Since the same guy directed both ,I took it as foreshadowing.

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Oh I didn’t realize that

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