Yeah Spider-Girl is really good! I wish it was the real Spider-Man continuity, IE no OMD/OMIT. :lol: It’s a pain in the ass to collect in TPBs though because there are several tiny ones. Still it’s a very new-reader-friendly series so you can jump in whenever. Even though it is sadly coming to an end soon.
Oh my effing days, thank you for linking to it.
Seriously Quesada’s done some good for Marvel, but please…keep your hands off Spiderman for the most part…please.
Speaking of which, anyone read Daredevil: Father? IIRC, Quesada wrote it and I enjoyed it, might reread it again.
Spiders and quesidallas really don’t mix well =/
MJ: “Peter we can only be married if we have kids! Don’t you see?! It isn’t about love or companionship!”
Peter: “My god MJ, you are right, but I want some spidey babies.”
MJ: “Well that’s kinda hard silly when we got two separate beds, I’m just that kind of girl.”
Oh Joe Q…you and Loeb really need to get together and take a long, long look at all the shit you’ve cranked out in the last few years. What is with Marvel these days? In my pull folder I got like 10 DC titles and 2 Marvel, one of them I don’t even like much.
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You know what? I bet 5 dollars that Peter actually gets her pregnant and MJ terminates it, causing them to break up.
Brevoort’s said in the past that OMD got rid of the pregnancy. We still don’t know if the little kid in OMD was Baby May aged properly and hidden away by Osborn (since the books left clues that it may not have been a miscarriage, but officially it was) and the deal got rid of her or if it was some future baby, but either way Baby May is gone. And so is the pregnancy.
So yeah I have no idea why Peter Parker gave up being Spider-Man during the Clone Saga so Ben could be the new Spidey if Pete’s wife… um… live-in girlfriend wasn’t pregnant… DON’T THINK ABOUT IT! :wonder:
Wow…it’s amazing to see how Joe Memphisto fucked up Spiderman’s universe.
I’m hoping Mark Waid’s run brings Spidey righfully back into the “Good books” club of Marvel. The art looks fantastic, the story seems good, and I don’t remember reading any Waid work before but at least he isn’t Quephisto (Lol, I like this).
Picked up Shadowland #2, Shadowland One-Shot: Bullseye, and Guardians of the Galaxy’s first TPB to catch up on CosMarvel.
I like Shadowlands, I can see where people have issues, but being a fan of the Marvel Knights and DD doing different things I approve, can’t wait to see what Fisk has in store for this.
One-Shot was kinda forgettable, I was hoping it would somehow give us clues that Bullseye is still kicking since I love his character, but unless that guy was speaking the truth I don’t see that happening for a good while.
GoTG is awesome, Rocket Raccoon is sweet. The appearance of Vance Astrovik actually made me jump for joy, I’ve always liked him. Just trying to catch up so I can nab Thanos Imperative.
The few Spider-Man issues I have read by Waid I haven’t enjoyed. And I like Mark Waid overall. I just don’t really care for his interpretation of Spider-Man. It has nothing to do with the OMD shadow cast over everything (well maybe it does because it is REALLY HARD to deny at times) but I just don’t care for his characterizations of Spidey’s cast.
I’m looking forward to Slott’s run in November, but after this O.M.I.T. stuff it may be really hard for me to care about ASM.
Slott overall seems to have better ideas for Spider-Man than JQ. He has a MUCH less complicated explanation for how Spider-Man’s identity went back under wraps in Avengers Initiative #7. However in typical Marvel style they only really reference Spider-Man related things that already happened in ASM (which was the case of Mysterio’s return that ignored everything in FNSM… And that was a Slott story…) but just me I like that explanation better than what OMD offered.
In short all three MVPs showed up on TV with the red/yellow Spidey robot suit on and made themselves look like Peter Parkers via the suit’s holographic capabilities. Convincing everyone that Peter Parker was just pretending to be Spidey and anyone could do it. That’s all that was needed really. But I guess Marvel went with a much bigger mind wipe then that because with Slott’s way Aunt May would still know, so would Daredevil, Wolvie, etc. Still much more plausable than people ‘forgetting’ who unmasked themselves as Spidey…
In an interview Slott also offered the possibility of Mr. Negative being the one to heal Aunt May. That would make SO MUCH MORE SENSE than what O.M.I.T. did. It would even explain why Aunt May is at the soup kitchen in a way. However it didn’t turn out that way which is really unfortunate. In fairness, Mr. Negative has become fairly popular as far as new Spidey villains go and anyone associated with O.M.I.T. well, it may not be good for the character.
Oh and Slott has admitted to liking the Capcom fighters with Spider-Man in them so in a lot of ways I give him a pass. :lovin: New Ways To Die is still my favorite BND story.
Even so, I still have my worries. Whenever we get returning villains, we get these “Guantlet-ized” versions. I’m fine with some of it. Anti-Venom is really cool. I like Doc Ock’s revamp but I’ll admit to never being a Doc Ock fan before. Chameleon’s was okay but Lente’s story was overall beyond depressing and didn’t belong in ASM IMHO. I dunno about Electro’s tattoo. And Hobgoblin with a FIRE SWORD coming in November like WHA… I want classic villains to return as THEMSELVES more often than not.
And then we have Carlie Cooper. SIIIIIGH… Please get rid of this character just like they got rid of Lily Hollister (IE fake MJ) as a love interest for Spidey. Carlie Cooper is just Gwen Stacy + Debra Whitman. On top of that she’s a Mary Sue! For crying out loud she is named AFTER JOE QUESADA’S DAUGHTER! His daughter’s first name is spelled differently but Brevoort confirms that she is named after her.
The book needs more MJ really. They can make her look as bad as they want to with her making side deals with Mephisto and more recent O.M.I.T. insanity or I dunno hiring Norman Osborn to lead the Avengers - :looney: - but it just isn’t going to work with me. She NEEDS to appear as a regular character. If I seriously have to stomach a love triangle between her, Peter and Mary Sue / Carlie Cooper I’m going to puke. If Spidey must date other people than hey, what about Liz, Betty, Debra Whitman, Ms. Marvel, hell even Spider-Woman because frankly the BND crew has sucked at creating new love interests for Spidey. And don’t get me started on Michelle which was a walking bad stereotype for Puerto Rican woman. OOOH HISPANIC LADY IS CRAZY OOOH… :wasted:
All in all I still have my worries but I’m willing to give Slott’s run in November a fair shot. Who knows, maybe he can make me like Carlie Cooper and Hobby’s fire sword. 
Sorry, can’t say that with a straight face. 
Still it’s a pretty hard sell and the O.M.I.T. shadow that the book will have just might eclipse the OMD shadow it has now.
Fix my Spidey… :crybaby:
I like Hobby, favorite confusing villain of all time. The idea of a fire sword is lol brilliant to me. I really liked Grim Hunt, I think a Joe Kelly Spider-Man run could be really cool. Honestly I can’t remember anything I’ve read Slott or Waid related, I just really want to read a Spidey book that is good, instead I am stuck reading Shadowlands, Avengers, and the like to get my 616 Spidey fix.
I just don’t see why they keep doing this OMD bullshit, universally it is despised, I can’t think of anyone in their right mind that enjoys it. Sure, here and there it has had a few good stories but it’s just a really bad stain. I can see it being our generations “Clone Saga” so to speak. (Even though I really like Ben Reilly, don’t be hatin’)
Let me know when Slott’s run starts Sano and I’ll pick it up, we can discuss the love/hate of it together lol.
Slott is going to write a Shadowland Spider-Man story (I forget if it is is a limited series or a one shot) so you can try that out to test the waters with Slott. He said that he is treating it like a Spidey Marvel Team Up story in the sense that whatever was going on in Spidey’s main book for the Team Up stories didn’t really matter. So Spider-Man will not take off his costume throughout the entire story. In other words BND/OMD/O.M.I.T. garbage along with his marital status isn’t going to matter. :tup:
He’s also writing the upcoming Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions game, so if you were going to buy that game anyway well there you go. Still I’m a bit worried that Activision might butcher his story. Brian Reed wrote Web of Shadows and I know his work so I’m willing to bet he did not write that half assed ending the game got that explained NOTHING. :wasted:
Ah well, everything so far for Shattered Dimensions looks great. Hopefully we will get a legendary gaming experience out of it. With Stan Lee, Barnes, Keaton, Gilvezan and Niel Patrick Harris all doing voice work for it they seriously better NOT mess it up. There’s only so much us Spidey fans can take…
Yeah. I took my pre-order off of MoH and put half of it on Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions, rest went on Halo: Reach since I might possibly regret not getting it the first week out.
I’ll get the Slott one-shot and check it out, I support anything that downplays or ignores the effects of OMD nonsense.
wow just found this thread. Long time spiderman reader. I’m gonna have to say I loved the gauntlet and grim hunt story arc and really thought spiderman was turning around. That being said Joe Quesada had to find a way to mess it up again. As if One more day wasnt enough he put out probably the worst issue ive ever read in 638. Just recently read 639 and although I liked that they tried to focus on Mj’s perspective, they just made things more confusing by completely ignoring the clone saga. The only way i can see that they can salvage anything is if they somehow erased the part of the clone saga where Reilley took over as Spiderman and where peter lost his powers and what not. Also the revival of aunt may made me laugh. If thats the best explanation they could think of then I really dont wanna know they’re other ideas. It was almost as bad as peter missing his wedding day due to a fat guy falling on him.
Also sano im gonna have to disagree a little on slott. When i heard he was writing the Mysterio section of the gauntlet I had high hopes. I read in an interview that he had been looking forward to doing a mysterio story for a long time and he was a long time fan of mysterio and such. Although it was good it was no where near the level of Kelly’s rhino arc which are probably the best spiderman issues in almost 10 years in my opinion. His big surprise that he was saying would amaze people of putting George Stacy wannabe into the book just felt very akward to me. The fact that he didnt explain explain Mysterio’s death didnt help much either. On a side note cant wait to see Hobbie back. Hopefully they have some good motivation for Kingsley returning to crime (it better be kingsley). As much as I wanna see a new version of the who is the hobgoblin saga they tried that stuff with menance and the conclusion turned out terribly
Hey Nickcam welcome to the thread! I didn’t read the Rhino story and probably never well since I don’t like the general direction of BND and pretty much cherry pick the stories I read. Recently I enjoyed reading Rhino in Mr. And Mrs. Spider-Man and The Darkest Hours book so I really don’t wish to taint my current outlook on the character with whatever BND has to offer. And I’m on John Romita Sr.'s run with classic ASM issues, so I’ll just stick with that.
I like Kelly though and have nothing against him. Except for the Michelle bits but hey that’s more of the entire Spidey Brain-(fart)-trust’s fault so I don’t hold any one person accountable for it really. I enjoyed the issue Kelly did with Deadpool and the Black Cat story at the very least.
During SDCC Slott did offer the possibility that the Mysterio he used may not have been the real Mysterio. Kind of blows that they ignored all of the FNSM stuff though in his last Mysterio story and we probably have to wait for another Mysterio story to clear things up.
In FNSM Mysterio was an agent of Satanic beings and even mentioned they (beings from Hell) has specific plans for Spidey. I guess now you can say that was OMD and perhaps one of the Demon Councils (there’s like 2 or 3) of Hell characters helped Mephisto out. Since PAD did know about OMD before it happened by his own admission in a podcast. Eh might as well be since I don’t think anyone will want to do a Mephisto / Satanic character / Spider-Man story for a while now…
LMAO! Funny how I just randomly found this thread (looking for 3S info) and see this comment the main reason I was put off Spiderman and buying comics weekly.
I feel sorry for people reading Spidermans lastest stuff, Its basiclly all the old storys recycled.
I might get back into X-men, atleast they grow as characters.
Hey peep the MVC3 Deadpool reference in the New York Times! Deadpool’s famous now. 
Hmm. Not sure why since it’s working for me. It’s on SRK’s Home Page though. Check the New York Times article there.
I finally dropped ASM. I’m done paying $3.99 for that disjointed, exploitative, thrice-monthly bullshit.
Keep forgetting to mention this but Marvel’s been running a bunch of teasers regarding who will be the new ‘Man Without Fear’ after Shadowland. You can see all the candidates below.
Newsarama.com : Marvel Teaser: The New MAN WITHOUT FEAR? Part 5
Mainly quoting myself lol because I spent most of the weekend putting about six months of comics away in long boxes. I came across last year’s X-Men and Spider-Man issue #3 which took place in the '90s our time, with Ben Reilly hanging out with the X-Men in their Jim Lee outfits (or what they were wearing in the previous Capcom games prior to MVC 3). Anyway when Ben Reilly mentioned why he was replacing Peter Parker he said it was because he lost his powers. I guess that’s how it works in this universe with that being the only reason since there’s no pregnancy…
Or… I’ll just continue to not read ASM and pretend he’s still married in New Avengers for my overall sanity…
At Gamestop the other day I noticed that they were selling cards for 10 dollars for Marvel’s digital comics service. The reason I mention this is because they have Spider-Girl in its entirety up there and it’s a pain in the but to collect it in TPBs. For some this might be an easier way to read the series than say subscribing to their digital comics service. I hope Marvel does drop some bigger TPBs for Spider-Girl down the line, like they are doing with the original Clone Saga.
Last issue of Spider-Girl comes out this week. After that there’s just Spider-Girl The End and it’s bye bye to the entire M2 Universe… :sad:
Well as far as it goes for Marvel, lately
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I finished all four seasons of X-Men Evolution (on youtube), it was a pretty good series although the ending left an opening for a season 5
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Just started Spectacular Spiderman, it’s cool that they skipped all the origins junk this time and went straight to the action this time around, speaking of action they keep it real constant in this show compared to the somewhat stop and go action of the TAS series imo (still love the TAS series though)
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I’ve also been watching some of the older Marvel animated shows like Spiderman and his Amazing friends and Ironman (1966), real classy stuff
Why does the ‘who will be the new Man without fear’ sound like Marvel’s Battle for the cowl?