The super after…ugh I hate that he doesn’t get the big hit if he juggles that. The last hit is most of the damage
Yet AGAIN!!! Bison get’s the shitty end of the damage stick.
so what? Not every super and Ultra work well as juggle enders. Each one has its purposes. Bison’s even has four. Ground combo ender, chip dealer, 7f reversal (against not so safejumps) and anti projectiles.
Why discuss his Super? It’s ass. The only time to use it is to seal a dominating win. Meter is too important.
I don’t remember the source but there was a video where some guy was talking to Combofiend about Rolento. The guy asked him why can’t they give Rolento Scouter Jump. Combofiend said because it would be too good. I don’t… I just… What he meant to say was that they couldn’t think of a way to make it not do what it’s supposed to do without obviously being retarded about it(adding 20 frames of start up; making it so that he can’t attack during the jump). This is why Bison is never going to be fixed. Things aren’t supposed to work right in this game. I said that I can’t wait for ver.2015 but the problem is the team behind the entire installment of SF4. They would have to be switched out for another team with a different philosophy for these problems to be solved.
It would also help if one of those guys played Bison.
By itself it isn’t relevant, but when you add it to the pile of things that don’t work for Bison or do poor output, it is just another instance of him getting the shitty end.
It would help if they did. And they need a new development team for sure, with a philosophy like the one used to make ST where everyone had their own character that worked.
Yup, or if I’m giving up. I’ll combo into Super to die with swag.
New OS against wake up backdash.
cr.lp > cr.lp + cr.hp > ex red focus
if the opponent block you will land cr.lp x 3. If he backdash you do cr.hp into ex red focus.
Lol, someone threatened my friend cause I got a perfect on him with Bison, and my friend said Bison sucks. Eh, just like Yun, online will be fun once I get onto the late Ultra train. People rage quitting on 1 underrated character for 2012, and one decent.
J.MP, Hell Attack, HP.Pyscho Crusher XX Knee Press Nightmare (3 hits) does 330 damage.
Stylish combo…but wait a minute, we can currently do, J.MP, HP Pyscho Crusher XX Knee Press Nightmare (3 hits) for 334 damage.
Swag is Swag I suppose!
Don’t know if you guys know this but if you juggle C.Viper into the corner with the above combo you will land the slide part of the Super as well, for 414 damage.
I think there is a couple of characters you can also score the 4th hit of the Super on as well but I can’t remember who they are off hand.
I think you’re right. I also don’t remember who.
I think it’s Guy, but I’m not so sure.
some news guys
• Far Standing MP start-up reduced by 2 frames (8F → 6F); recovery decreased by 1 frame 11F → 10F [Combofiend listed this as 11F → 12F]; now Special/Super/and EX Focus-cancellable; damage reduced by 20 (90 → 70) [Combofiend wrote 80 → 60]; advantage on hit changed from 0 → +3; advantage on block changed from -3 → 0
So are you saying what Combofiend listed was wrong? It’s 10 F recovery, Dmg is 70 not 60?
Tested Bison a bit. I am loving his buffed F. Jump MP.
First Jump MP, you can follow with any Normal or Ultra 1 (thanks to faster start-up).
2nd Jump MP (Hell Attack), its seem only Psycho Crusher can be used as a follow-up. St. HK & Scissor Kick doesn’t to hit the opponent. Ultra 1 still work. I forgot to try EX Scissor Kick but might as well just use Psycho Crusher for more stun.
With that last minute buff it’s stupid easy to combo into st mp now.
mmmmm…crossup roundhouse, cr.mp, st.mp xx RH scissors FADC cr.lp, st.lp, cr.mp, st.mp xx RH scissors for 399 is delicious. 400 dmg FADC combos? yes please!
what is the best 3 frame cr. short in the game? what’s the longest reaching 3 frame cr. short?
I wanna test whiff punish spacing for st. mp
probably bison’s. 1.2 range along with chun’s
It is still 6 frames … why should it be easier to combo into st.mp ???