This is bad news i though only regular PC would be 1 hit on block but it seems the same goes for EX PC. No more frame adv when doing okizeme EX PC in the corner i guess?
Bison got better offense but he seems quite nerfed defensively. Although with the new game mechanics this will be less problematic in this aspect i hope.
Oh wait actually at 01:29:30 the EX PC hit twice on block. Probably it’s more space dependent than before.
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I don’t think there is anything different with Ex.PC outside of the damage nerfs.
Hahaha, tune in at 5:56:00 and hear what Combofiend has to say about Bison. He said " Bison is one of the most improved characters…" can you believed it ? He can’t be serious. the biggest thing Bison got is Ex.RF which is a universal system mechanic. St.Mp is good but it’s no way as good as they make it out to be. His claim that Bison is one of the most improved characters seems extremely unfounded and it is really strange that he thinks so considering what the other characters got.
That’s because they are trying to “sell” it to us that Bison is good now because it would cost them more money to tweak him further. Don’t worry, if he still sucks, like I think he will, we will be able to blast them to no end with “I told you so(s).”
Since we have unlisted changes like the Psycho Crusher hitting only once on block i hope the 3 frames cr.lp is still there too lol.
ugh, i just watched and yeah, 1 hit regular PC is definitely in that build. the best examples are around the 01:31:15 mark. you can see eryu start to move around before bison starts his recovery frames both times bison does a PC from the front. i doubt they’d change it so only front hits once and cross up hits twice. some characters may still have trouble punishing at the best possible spacing, but characters that have moves or ultras that lunch them across the screen (80% of the cast) will more than likely be able to punish
undocumented changes are so irritating. oh well, it just means we have even less “mix ups” and just play more linear and straight forward. i don’t have too much of a problem since dwu already screwed cross up crushers but it’s still annoying to nerf things for no reason
So what you guys expect the disadvantage is with the nerfed PC crusher? -400 maybe xD ? I can clearly see why Bison is “one of the most improved characters” sighh…
It looks like as if they removed the PC tail hitbox all together.
Yeah, especially with how good the new system mechanic, might be, on countering these types of tactics.
Lol at Wao trying to play Bison in the SCR exhibition, ain’t so easy is it?
Meh. I mean, perhaps he’s gonna be better “overall”, but not by much. Maybe it’s because the players are not experimenting with the new changes at all, but he looks so scarily similar to v.2012, only with a nerf to his teleport and PC. Perhaps we just need a better demonstration, but still.
The only way I see Bison become a viable character is if the metagame changes in his favour. I really like how the game is much more focused on neutral now, and wakeup setups have basically lost their reason to exist.
Yeah, the PC wakeup setups were nerfed for the most part, but they were more cute than anything. They never worked more than once against anyone with a brain.
IDK, when I see this version of Bison, I think he looks a lot more like his SFxT version, which was pretty good.
Precisely,
this is what I have been trying to argue. That the buffs don’t help him really. IF and ONLY IF he is going to be a good character, it is only because the metagame has shifted in his favor as a result of the mechanics changes, so that the buffs and nerfs are not what is going to give him a real chance at being balanced with the rest of the cast.
It is very upsetting to her Combofied and others try to promote Bison as being so great BASED on the buffs he is getting. See…NOTICE, they never say he will be great only because of the system mechanic changes. They say because of things like mp and what not.
Yes! I agree completely, the game is kinda becoming more like SFXT overall and Bison is really good in this kinda game.
My friend (Rog player), said Bison was brain dead and tried to show off in a ranked match. Got perfected, lawl. Coming from someone who can yolo TAP, Ex any punch & headbutt.
Had 4 or 5 hours with Bison at Cannes loctest. Hes better than AE. Guile match up is better unquestionable, possible only 6:4 to Guile now.
Psycho Crusher only hits once on block for 18 chip. No longer safe if it doesn’t hit as a cross up even at point blank range. Still safe if it does cross up. The main difference is that reversals no longer auto correct against it. 9 times out of 10 the revetsal will whiff. It beats reversal flash kick. Cross up damage is still 100. Cross up PC is much better now.
Chip damage on all scissors kicks improved. Now 25/30/35 for normal scissors.
J.mp, hell attack hp pyscho crusher works for 222 damage meterless.
Ultra combo double damage is 372 for u1 and 317 for u2.
Honda ex.headbutt is punishable with s.mp xx hp.pc for 230 damage.
Guiles auto correct ultra not fool proof. Stuffed and traded with 3-4 times with tardy crosses ups. Fell out of animation when it countered headstomp twice.
Ex scissor kick is braindead good. Shotos are toast.
What change you think made the most impact on this match-up ?
Guile has nothing but buffs so I thought it is worse.
Damn it! so nothing justifies this nerf. 18 chip point that just extremely miserable 
Are you sure about that ? it should deal at most 192 damage points.
J.MP then hell attack then hp pc works. 222 damage.
so they either buffedd hell attack damage or hp.PC.
How is cr.HP anti -air capability ? is it any different than the PC mod ?
Have you spoken with dawgtanian ?
Azza, do you think dwu ruins option selects? If yes, then it’s good news for Bison I think, but also for the game in general.
edition select in usf4
choose any version of bison
sooooo basically super or vanilla version of bison?
Fuck Ultra Bison, we got Super Bison back, son!