Im depress, im still going to stick to Bison but I really hope these changes arent finally.
Twitch has been ass since their competition Owned3D went out of business.
I really wish we could see more Bison. Right now, I feel like Capcom is just nerfing SK because newer players can’t handle SK pressure. I don’t think there is a single player who knows the Bison match up that thinks SK is OP and warrants a nerf, because most characters have a clear answer to SK pressure.
James Chen thinks the -1 nerf isn’t that bad. Obvious scrub.
He was talking about still beating out some moves after a blocked short KP up close. Opponent was probably doing a slower move. Against an opponent with 3 frame normals, they should always have the advantage. I liked his idea for a teleport that moves him forward two character widths. I also agree that Bison needs just one more thing to put him “over”, but I don’t think it’s that teleport. He was playing up the st.MP buff too much IMO.
I was mostly Kapping lol. I liked that teleport idea, too. And why the hell not make it go through the character? We need a bone thrown to us lol
same guy that went on and on for a year or two that cammy was only mid tier and has bad footsies?
It should still be reverted. Putting it there is like a kick in the nuts for no reason.
Dev A: "Oh, just nerf it."
Dev B: "Why?"
Dev A: "Just 'cause… I dunno… it’s still safe."
Dev B: “Okay lol”
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I see your point … but honestly … Bison wants to be in the neutral game … that is where is strong … so basically all this wake up/escape options do exactly what they are supposed to … if you want momentum on Bisons wake up go for EX SK FADC … I dont want to argue … but the teleport nerf is not really the problem …
Actually, it’s the opposite. When Bison runs away, he MUST go back. He plays mid to close range, but at mid range, he deals no damage, so if he stays there, not much will happen. He must reach the opponent eventually.
Akuma, Seth and Dhalsim, however, can teleport into their comfort zone. Whenever they run away, they’re at zoning position and that’s good enough for them. If Akuma and Seth need and want, they get closer.
Forget it.
i agree on over selling the st. MP buff. people forget Bison has a 7f cr. MP. I was testing out the range last night and standing MP has a tiny bit longer reach than crouching on a standing Ryu. and Cr. MP xx scissors works as a simple decent punish against a blocked flash kick or what ever. As far as the touted cr.lp st.lp cr.mp st.mp into scissors. that requires two 1 frame links, and his other new combo cr.lk cr.lk st.lk st.mp xx scissors is also two 1 frame links. I know james chen was talking about how Bison is fun now. He is pretty much the same as before. now if they wanted to make bison viable and fun one change I would like to see is
full projectile invincibility on ex scissor, even if they shorten the range and reduce the damage. at least we would be able to punish guile booms. because now the match seems like it is going to be harder than ever in USF4.
Guys , welcome our new ,possibly, worst match up…
Yes , Chun li with super and life lead means dead Bison. This is **Not Delicious ** , even my attempt to use the safest way possible to use the nerfed LSK for 7 chip points was punished hard…
I dont understand what Capcom is doing with these changes.
I’m liking the tech you’ve come up with on the St. Strong buff guys. Can’t wait for release to bust some new BnB’s.
Is there literally any way you guys can see that they’re not going to keep Lk Scissors neutral? It seems like nobody in the “inner circle” (Read: Devs) is fighting Bison’s case and I can see our pressure game go to shit here so all the St Strong tech in the world won’t help us.
Capcom is really trying to play up the MP buff. sure its a good buff, but does it solve Bison’s major problems? Look at the match with Ross and Combfiend. Ross was playing a terrible Sagat. If he was a solid Sagat Combofiend would have been murdered. We all know this as Bison players.
Bison needs that -1 SK nerf to be taken away. There was no reason to remove it, so all Capcom is really doing, is pissing us off!
He needs more priority on Hell attack, end of story.
They should fix the hitbox on skull diver and make it fall faster.
Those two buffs with, with taking away the SK nerf, would be awesome in my view. I would live with that shit.
T^T
I like how the two kinds of people who are downplaying the -1 nerf on this character are either
a. Non-Dictator players
b. People who use characters that don’t win for free against him
Is there a video? I thought I saw one, but can’t seem to find it now (or I’m imagining things). It actually might not be that bad, he’s just gonna have to be played completely different now. That or we all switch to Vega/Elena!
Bison doesn’t seem to get stream time much if ever. With Ultra I can’t help but wonder if thats because he’s still too boring for the limited attn span of most stream monsters (most can’t tolerate a footsie battle). Or if everyone else has eclipsed him like I fear.
Yeah, even more pokes.