So why is Claw so high on people’s list? He’s not equal to Dictator or Sagat. He couldn’t even beat Chun. Juri w/Feng Shu is pretty boss. Guile’s not grazing Dictator. Cody and Guy are equals? I could see that. Claw being in the same league as Gen or Gouken, hell no. He even uses a weapon and still is only Boxer level of Shadowloo.
Claw lost to Chun who possibly won SF2. Guile is another one who possibly ( and MOST LIKELY) beat Bison and won SF2 before Akuma jumped in and killed Bison ( canon btw Jiggly). Cody and Guy and Haggar are equals.
Claw is NOT the same league as Gen but Gouken possibly IMO.
Balrog was hired because he’s tough and fights for money. Sagat was hired because he was the strongest. Vega was hired because he has killed a looooooot of people in street fights and underground fights.
Of course Claw killed a bunch of people, he has a FUCKING CLAW.
Give Ryu a katana and I’m sure his “power level” jumps dramatically.
Guile won SF2. Chun received training from Gen so she is prolly pretty tough.
I’m not concerned with what you’re fairly certain about. Guile kicked Dictator’s ass…Sagat is a non issue.
How old are you? He beat Bison, he just didn’t kill him Akuma/Gouki did.
Yeah Guile beat M. Bison, you don’t have any sway regarding that.
So in theory, Dan and Adon are better than Sagat. Pretty sure Dictator trolled Guile cause he gets off on chasiting people who come at him vengefully (see Chun). Can’t see someone like Guile beating someone like Bison legit.
Whatever you need to tell yourself. I never recalled Chun-Li ever coming close to having the upperhand against M. Bison unless you count the live action flick. M. Bison was then killed off by Akuma.
so his trolling is actually harmful to himself.
Cody fell instantly, when Ryu transformed while Cody’s back was turned after Cody had knocked Ryu out. Ryu sucker punched him is what happened. Cody got Ryu to go Evil Ryu faster than even Sagat did in SF1. Plus Udon comics are all completely non-canon according to Capcom.
I never heard about the Mangas being canon or not but I assumed with the SNH Ryu creation appearing as a “what-if” in subsequent SF games that the original Mangas were considered to some extent to be at least PARTIALLY canon. The Udon comics however are not at all.
I stated that Guile beat Dictator. I never said otherwise.
I wasn’t even arguing the canon veracity in that post. We know Cody is atleast a capable fighter…he would not be caught off guard if he was as disciplined as he is cocky.
Of course not you just claimed Sagat would be some sort of impass.
Sure. Dictator asked Sagat to be his right hand man for a reason. Also note SF2 Dictator is when he fused with Rose, so yeah he wasnt at full power.
People have no issue putting Ryu over Guile. Who has Ryu actually beaten without blindsiding them? He legit beat hugo. i think thats all we know. everyone supes him up cuz of his potential, but its all hearsay.
What im saying is we draw conclusions based on what chars do and their interactions with other chars.
For ex/ Adon beat Sagat at the end of SF1. But in tye begging of SF4 Sagat MAULED Adon with ease and almost EVERYONE in SF4 win qoutes tells Adon to leave Sagat alone and that Sagat is stronger. from that we can surmize Sagat > Adon.
little known fact. Deejay challenged sagat in Alpha 3 and won. Dictator then offered him a spot in shadowloo but Deejay turned him down
Vega doesn’t use his claw simply to kill people. He uses it because he’s a sadist.
He’s an elite, upper echelon fighter. Many quotes imply one of the only things holding him back from being on the top level is his arrogance and personality, underestimating and toying with opponents. Not his physical ability or talent, which are as good as any other non bullshit (read: Akuma) character’s.
I’m sure he could “kill a lot of people” without the claw, just like I’m sure Ryu could if he so desired.
He cursed himself for jumping into a wake up Ultra.
Yeah and if I had pickles I’d be a Big Mac, fact is mo-fo HAS a damn claw so you better recognize
For some reason people reeeeeeeeally overrate Ryu. Yeah he’s the protagonist. He’s also an EVERYMAN protagonist, not meant to be exceptional in anything except his fighting spirit. All we know canonically is that Sagat easily whooped his ass and that Akuma wants him to get angry.
Ryu is bottom tier. Shoulda punched Sakura square in the jaw during SF4 Movie.
This. Dhalsim seems completely separate from the SF world, and only fights in an attempt to spiritually guide his opponent. You see this alot in his SF4 post-match quotes aswell.
Tie between Fei Long and Wesker.
Fei Long is canonically as strong as Ken, in fact they were portrayed as rivals in some comics and the SF2 cartoon.
He could be conceivably a Strong tier character ( not boss or God) since I think he and Chun Li are on the same level also.
IF you guys never saw the Street Fighter 2 Victory cartoon, it is very good. It portrays a very young Ryu and Ken ( pre SF1 in fact) fighting the world warriors and getting stronger.
The show`s first or second episode shows Ryu and Ken going to a bar and picking a fight with some Air Force guys… only for Guile to arrive and open up an epic, crushtastic, flash kick delivering can of whoopass on Ryu so hard that it’s a wonder he survived it.
That show had a completely alternate canon but god damn it was good and itself came up with some concepts that stayed for good later on in further canon, such as Bison being extremely powerful ( and not just a southeast asian drug kingpin and dictator), Ken being a dragon punch specialist, and other stuff I can’t remember right now.
Also it portrayed Charlie/Nash as a black guy which I thought was fucking awesome until they just made him into a Guile clone later in games.
PFf…
Here’s the scene by the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHEfOZafxfM
This is by the way how the fight would go all the way to SF2, at which point it would be a tad more equal… except Guile did win the tournament so he was arguably stronger then too.
I know we’re bringing up canon and non-cannon facts but bringing up Street Fighter V is blasphemy to SF canon. In V, Ryu and Ken learn Hadoken and Shoryuken from Hindu teachings. We all know Gouken taught them those techniques.
???. This makes no sense. Dictator was fighting Guile. He didn’t know Akuma was going to sneak him during the fight. Worldstar.
Yet Vega (CLAW) has done nothing without a claw so we don’t know what he’s capable of doing without it. Most of the character’s win quotes basically say the same thing or in the same context that they’re that much better than their opponent. Please, Akuma’s my favorite character but I know he lost to Gouken then failed to kill him the second fight, so I’m not playing favoitism here.