Lore/Storywise who are the strongest and weakest characters?

The OVA is what HAPPENED. It’s not like it’s just Juri telling the story to people and exaggerating. “Yeah guys. Then I totally kicked that bitch out of a plane.”

To start with, even though it was marketed together with the game, there’s no explicit mention to it being canon, and by the general rule, all those adaptation are not canon (to my knowledge, The Ties that Bind clearly isn’t). This movie is one of the closest, and some of its events are indeed referenced in the game, but it’s a big of a step to assume it to be completely canon in the details. I think there were a few inconsitencies here and there, like the one about the injuries, but I don’t recall them. Vasili10 claimed that the movie was definitely not canon, but that’s not clear.

From Chun and Juri rival dialogue, we know that they met before the game and it seems that Juri won or got away better than Chun, but judging from Chun’s expression it seems that it wasn’t as decisive as the anime makes it to be. While it is hinted that Juri is stronger than Chun Li, I’d hesitate to put her a whole tier above her.

Didn’t Guy defeat SNH Ryu in the original SFZero Manga by Masahiko Nakahira, the original creator of SNH Ryu?

http://sadpanda.us/images/68670-QSCHFIO.jpg

Guy = Cody in storyline strength with Cody usually winning sparring matches generally should put them at about the same level as SNH Ryu then

If Sakura trained properly she would be very strong. Can imitate moves that she can see? Throw a hadoken on the first try, while it took everyone else years(assuming). She is like the Goku of street fighter

yes, with a single phone call Bison and Shado…loo are history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIKKl1eH0FM

not if you can buy the whole tournament and regulate the streams and forbid collusion…

1: Ingrid (Although I don’t like her all that much, she’s the whole reason SFxTK happened and she toyed with EVERYONE in the game, period.)

2: Shin Akuma, Alpha 3 Bison, Gill

3: Akuma, Gen, Oro, Evil Ryu (SF4), Bison, Gouken

4: Dhalsim, Rose, Ryu, Ken, Urien, Sagat

5: Balrog, Vega, Chun-li, Guile, Charlie, Cammy, Juri

6: Everybody else

Claw is way better than this thread seems to think.

Also Oro totally ducked Makoto cuz he knew nothing beats Rendo kan. Soon as she left he had to change his pants and thank his lucky stars.

Bitch be crazy

Sagat took a Metsu Shoryuken to the chest. Satsui no Hadou techniques are ALL assassination techniques meant to kill an opponent INSTANTLY. Not only did Sagat NOT die. He used the experience to further develop his own style and create techniques that mirror the raw power of the attack he took (Tiger Uppercut/Genocide/Destruction)

Other chars that survived such attacks are Gen, Gouken, Gill and Dictator. Gill and Dic have godlike power and Gouken slipped into a coma for years.

Don’t sleep on The King.

I’ve always wondered about the Ryu-Sagat match. Ryu basically did a scrubby wakeup uppercut. I assume Sagat yelled “faggot!” afterwards.

The manga is not canon, although Capcom likes to borrow things from the different SF adaptations, so it might or might not eventually happen in the actual storyline in the future. I recall they’ve recently put a couple of references to Nakahira’s mangas: Evil Ryu’s chest hole and the internet-connected tree in Dudley and Elena prologue in SFxT.

Funny thing is Sagat NEVER said Ryu cheated him. Ryu felt like that but Sagat just kinda took it at face value. “I lost so I must be weak.”

Sagat took 3rd in SF2. He didnt lose any matches. When he heard Ryu lost he simply dropped out of the tourney. Neither Guile or Vega had to face Sagat. I’m willing to bet Sagat could have taken both of them.

Plain honest Gouken beat Shin Akuma the first time, and lost the 2nd time (resulting in his coma/death/whatever). If without the dark hadou he is already on the level of Shin Akuma, with it he would easily be the strongest in the SF universe.

Uhmmm Guy beat Evil Ryu handily while in the Udon comic Cody fell instantly when Ryu transformed.

lol Guile beat M. Bison. Please take off the fanboy goggles.

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Vega = Dictator

Sagat was waiting in grand finals but when he heard it wasnt Ryu coming to face him, he left.

I’m fairly certain Sagat would beat Guile.

Guile got pussy whipped by his wife (and daughter?) and never finished him, so he never really beat Bison.

Storywise I’m pretty sure it goes as such, also assume that I mean each character at his strongest point in the series:

God tier:
Akuma ( and variations), Bison, Gill, Ingrid, Oro, Gen

Boss tier:

Vega, Sagat, Ryu, Guile, Chun Li, Gouken, Rose

Strong tier:

Ken, Charlie, Zangief etc etc etc


IIRC the most accepted canon is that Guile or Chun Li won the SF2 tournament, they are seriously strong. Vega is underrated by you, you seem to forget he is one of the original bosses of Shadaloo for some reason. Sagat is stronger than Ryu, and as far as I know always was until Ryu’s absolute peak.

Is Akuma killing Bison canon in SF2? I was under the impression it wasn’t.

This guy has it right, actually. Though canonically Charlie was always stronger than Guile, by SF4 I’d say they’re pretty much equal. However I’d say that your tiers 4 and 5 could use some interchanging, but they’re pretty close and styles make fights so… I have to agree with you.