I got in a while back… I have the matches saved, But I haven’t made time to upload them
I never thought to try kara’ing with a crouched normal. nice
I’m pretty sure in crane that s.mp kara throw is better than regular throw by a hair.
I learned to do it from those crazy Abel players doing c.HK kara TT.
Due to Gen’s crouch normals’ slow start-up, his crouch kara throw is not worth it IMO since he doesn’t travel much in the 1st start-up frame. I’ll just do a simple standing jab kara if I ever needed to do it from crane, which I think had similar range to c.MP/c.HK, and probably longer than the overhead. I’m planning to test it tonight along with other kara setups.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think only Kara throw in Crane is MP.
He has a lot of Kara throws, I always used MP in mantis the most because I’m pretty sure it had/has the best range
I’m pretty sure his Crane s.LP kara throw travels further than that slow overhead. Anyhow, please give me a few hours so I can go home and test it myself in the training mode.
nah, mk has the most in mantis, but doing mp isnt bad because if you miss the kara, st.mp is probrablly the most versatile normal you could throw out
I just tried stuffs in training mode.
Partial kara throw list from the highest range to the lowest:
Mantis s.MK > Mantis s.HP = Mantis s.HK > Mantis s.LK > Mantis s.MP = Mantis c.HP >>>>>>>> Crane c.MP = Crane s.MP = Mantis c.MP
Meh. Looks like I was wrong in jab kara. Sry for trying to confuse you. If there is another Kara throw discussion tho, I think we should do it outside of the video thread.
Well I know he has 3 in Mantis and one in Crane, does he have another in Crane? I always used MP as it works for both stances.
Some of my random Gen Matches…still learning !!
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Interesting Gen RBBB! Good play. Have to start to learn to spam that EX-Geikiro after a blocked OGA more often! You seem to catch quite a good few people with that.
lol…I’ve a really bad habit of using if on most Oga blocks, …shouldn’t but cant help it !
Does nice damage when it hits tough:wgrin:
err when I said, MP I meant MK -_-
TheHoiGek:
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This thread needs more genanigan gimmicks!
my comment (the Hoigek video) :
1.hes not solid
2.run away a lot
3.and random play
or he dont know the match-up Sakura
but good set of combos
and we have noone using gen at tournaments
i hope when the arcade version comes out someone will take him up
edit: WTF i wrote in the wrong thread
anyway hoigek in other videos didnt look that bad
and yeah he has sick execution skill, at least from what is showed in videos up to now… lots of 1 frame links to that sHP xx Hands
Everyone plays Gen differently i guess, so the deffinition of solid maybe different … … yeah he was running away from that sakura, but i think its because she has a good mix up and pokes and as you could see once she got in, he got stunned. So the idea of running away was probably a good choice/statergy.
random play is also a good stratergy IMO. It will sometimes throw your opponent off your playing stlye.
TheHoigek has really good execution! … in general most top gen players on here have too.
Thats why im always in training mode practicing my BnB, FADC’s and little frame traps. TBH i feel i have improved allot, one main thing i’ve noticed is my confidence in hitting my BnB.
He did say Sakura’s rushdown is something to be afraid of + her jump is ambiguous to figure out whether to block front or back. I can see when I saw his video just now he said he was tired of playing for several hours.
Maybe one thing I noticed was that while he was able to do MK hands, he was still using a lot of c.MP hands instead. As Gen’s crouching MP/MK normals are below average in start-up (range and frame advantage too, but it doesn’t matter here), I wouldn’t have done that.
His execution is really great indeed.
i’ve always been a huge fan of MK xx Hands
but honestly, after that awful hitbox nerf sMK received in Super… i think cMP xx hands could be a better poke (it has a VERY nice hitbox) even if its 2 frames slower
and cMP tends to go “under” more moves than sMK do, giving better chances of success
sMK xx Hands is still essential in combos, after sMP connects, and might be used more like for punishing stuff with strict timing since its faster
but talking about priority and poking, ok sMK is slightly faster but i’m not sure its better than cMP (xx hands)… i think not anymore… and range is pretty much the same after the nerf