Korean arcade parts discussion

I will include screwdriver slot for retail version. It is a bit time consuming proccess, but I will try it.

Totally make sense, with bigger deadzones= more neutral zone, so we can input next neighborhood input faster.
So here is the trade off:

Long throw will make opposite input slower (like right then to left) since the stick will travel more distance in neutral zone (not good for charge char like guile), but it will make the neigbor input (right then down/up) much faster because the neutral zone is wider, just release the stick a bit and you get neutral state then ready for next input (this is will benefit wavedash and backdash in tekken)

Short throw is done the opposite, negibor input will need more travel distance, opposite input less distance, plus the diagonal input is easier to hit.

Thank you for making this short video, help me understanding how the parts perform. Btw I like how you perform that super fast wavedash (2 player side), it was very intimidating :lol

Just to add to this video I invested in getting this and so far it hasn’t loosened up.

Less than a dollar at Home Depot for 3 of them

@wazwuz Oh man if you think my wavedash is intimidating, you should see @“kodee vu” do his. It’s crazy! Lol

Yeah, even with this setup, I am able to do Bryan Fury’s Taunt Jet Upper consistently. Which requires you to do a forward, then back + right punch, in under 2 frames for it to hit on the opponents guard. That’s where the Korean Grommet design truly shines.

yes this spring ring will work too, I use it everyday in my workshop. but it will add about 2mm in height, I think it is still tolerable.

Wow, if you could do Bryan TJU, then it was perfect setup in every situation. btw, could you hit diagonal without problem using this setup?

hope we get more inputs/feedback like yours from tester, then we well able to make conclusion which parts work the best.

@wazwuz I was able to do Heihachi OTGF and Hwoarang JFSR with a good degree of control. The inputs from f, d/f are very strict. This is definitely the setup I will stick with. Not gonna change a thing. Lolol

@Call2Arms , I was tekken player too, beside timing I know that moves need high precision, if you hit D before DF it won’t came out. So I consider you can hit diagonal without problems.

now the questions is, did the golden Fanta setup help you achieve it more consistent?, or you execution skill is just too good :lol: .
We need second opinion for this, anyone can help to test this setup and give their thought?

@wazwuz I wouldn’t say my execution is godlike, but my friends do know me for having enough skill to do “difficult” things fairly quickly with clean inputs…

I wanted a stick that had the Myoungshin feel, and the consistency of a Crown 309. The tension on the 309 has a unique feel to it, which is not at all a bad thing, but a Myoungshin’s grommet and housing has a smooth feel to it. But the 309’s cleanliness of input and throw range make me feel like I am in full control of everything I do. When I am in the correct position near the collar, I don’t have to worry about random inputs.

With that setup I have the best of both worlds. Smooth action, precise inputs, and the ability to “float” the stick in a position where neighboring inputs are just fast. I can’t say that it made it easier, but it gave me a more manageable degree of control.

You so silly :stuck_out_tongue: :slight_smile:

P1 on Crown 309 K-mount (not MJ), 25A grommet. No additional mods. https://twitter.com/kodeevu/status/829930580632481793?s=09

^ Gdlk. LOL

Actually come to think of it I haven’t tried how it performs in a japanese joystick. I got a Hori at home. I’ll try it when I get off and post the results here.

Thanks. This will be interesting to see how it performs.

@“kodee vu” how does the Sanwa bat-top compare to the myoungshin. It looks so nice with the Golden Fanta shaft.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/mbJSan.jpg

My brother ordered a Golden Fanta kit and let me do some testing. First off I’m not a Tekken player, I play shmups and 2d fighters. For me my favorite setup was IST airbag with 11mm shaft, cone actuator and red grommet. The first fanta I installed the red grommet into would get stuck inputs, the second had no issues at all. Currently I’m using a clear Sanwa battop, ordered a standard black one to try out but it hasnt arrived yet. Overall I had a lot of fun testing out different configurations, thanks wazwuz.

@Xavius Just curious what you meant “the second had no issues”. Did you have a second setup or did you use it long enough to have that broken down feel (aka no stuck inputs). I think with all my tests with the cones actuator I’ll get stuck inputs and when I noticed it I just went back to either the stock myongshin actuator or (my current one) the 15.5 mm one.

I have two IST airbag levers, at first I had issues getting stuck on certain inputs with the cone actuator and red grommet . I switched out the collared plastic piece from second lever and the problems went away. I cant explain why it fixed the problem.

Bah! If you’ve ever felt a CWJ then you’ve felt a japanese mounted fanta. Tried it and the shaft hits the sides right after it clicks (engage is similar to throw). The inside of the hori clearly wasn’t designed to house it either, considering how close the wires were to a wall of plastic (obvious). Installation requires that the base of the stick be perpendicular to the mounting plate or else m4 screws won’t be able to pass through both.

Use sensitive switches and firm grommets if you must…

Does this mean that the shortened collar actually makes the Fanta feel like a crown? I heard the 309MJ feels like the 309HelpMe. Maybe if the collar was made by Myoungshin themselves it would be like the differences between the MJ and Helpme. At least we can dream.

@Call2Arms When you say correct height, do you mean that if i fly myself over to Korea, that their arcades will have the same height. I just want to get my stick as authentic as possible.

Well, what I meant was that the 25(?) mm hole makes the stick feel like a gimped Korean stick. Same way CWJ’s feel to me.

So… I used The Golden Fanta Mod on an FLF…

@Call2Arms square gate fanta, interesting find. Btw, what if you put bigger actuator? Does it still make square gate?

Put red battop on that stick, and it will super sleek fightstick hahaha

I got a bit occupied with work and retro upscaled gaming stuff but had a bit of time to play with the Golden Fanta kit recently.

I really like the OMRON switches with the cone actuator and the biggest shaft. For a short throw and switch engage, this works pretty well for 2D and 3D fighters.