@m_abdalla3 very close to my set up although I bounce between the 9mm and 8mm shaft but prefer the 8mm. As for the collared helpme in my experience I have found the mj easier to use overall and I’m not a fan of the latter.
I recently received a warning from Saint to stop using Panasonic switches. Apparently he found a problem with them but he wasn’t able to tell me much more than that. Maybe he’s referring to them no longer being produced? I was surprised to hear this though, considering he told me he was using AM5s only two months ago.
I also bought an A2 switch which I’ll swap the down direction on my Helpme v2 for to see how it works. Currently using all AM5s, I’ll report back with results some time. Saint didn’t really like the idea though, he said using all A2s or all A3s is probably better.
He also said the Kaze and Taeyoung levers have the same body.
Lots of people who are making their own levers, including airbaguy and some others, still have some Panasonic switches before they discontinued. Unless it’s gonna burn my house down, or just get very worn out, I am still gonna use those switches.
The Taeyoung and Kaze bodies are different. The Kaze body is the same IST design that’s used in the FLF lever.
Also the body in the picture is a custom mold.
Before any misinformation spreads, Saint didn’t say to stop using them because they’re discontinued, he just said don’t use them. I conjectured that it might be because they’re discontinued, but I was wondering if anyone else knew/noticed anything about them. Hopefully they don’t burn houses down.
I also don’t have a Taeyoung to compare with so I can’t confirm about the body, just passing along what I heard.
As for the A2 switch for down, I’m quite liking it. It took a little bit of adjusting to be able to wave dash and electric like before, but my backdash cancelling was immediately better. I lost a bunch of the down inputs I used to get which made qcb motions, so I’m getting closer to a proper KBD as opposed to reverse wavedash. I’ll probably play with it some more and see if there are any issues though, and determine whether or not this was just a one off.
Been testing a modified fujin v2 build the past couple days. I’m using a soft red makestick grommet with myoungshin bushing and a bored the stock actuator to accommodate an 8mm golden fanta shaft. Overall I’m not really getting any missed inputs and it’s not as tiring as a stock fujin although the throw is wider due to the smaller shaft. Now I’m in the process of testing different switches with it. I credit Phantomnaut for this because i got the idea when he said the green arcade lever has closer switch positioning than the taeyoung so I decided to try it with the fujin.
im learning to properly kbd with my new taeyoung. its crazy how much better the inputs are compared to both my myoungshin and helpme. I would sometimes get a down input when i release to neutral on those levers, so I would always revert to doing the pleb kbd method. i always thought i was just terrible at doing it and maybe I still am, but the taeyoung definitely helps alot. electrics on the tae are still inconsistent for me, at least compared to the stock helpme, that thing is an electric machine.
That’s exactly the problem I was having. Interesting to hear the Taeyoung alleviates this to an extent. I’m tempted to pick one up to try it out now.
@blankaex definitely worth getting if you have a golden fanta kit. Ever since the release of tekken 7 I’ve tried the 309mj, 309 helpme collared version, taeyoung, fujin v2, myoungshin, kaze and if I could choose any one of those I choose the modded taeyoung. I’ve been testing so much to find the lever that is the most balanced. You know when you switch between levers and find that you do some stuff better but it’s worse in other departments? With the taeyoung using stock grommet, myoungshin bushing, am5s with a2 for down (purely for speed), 8mm golden fanta shaft, 15mm golden fanta actuator I have zero issues doing anything. I’m talking cd both sides for a minute straight, kbd both sides for days, double/triple cd into ewgf, iWR.
@zero_requiem does the myoungshin bushing make a difference? i am more or less running your setup on my tae and electrics have been my only complaint with the lever. i can do them if i go slow and really stress sliding from d to df but even then my success rate feels kind of random. when doing them at a natural speed, i will have streaks where i will hit 3-4 in a row, and then not hit another until several attempts. its just feels odd, especially when i compare it to the helpme, where i will have an above average success rate and don’t even have to think about my inputs or timing.
@zero_requiem Thanks for the info, very tempting indeed. Unfortunately I don’t have a Golden Fanta kit, though. At the moment I’m using a 309 helpme with Golden Crown parts. I’ll probably pick up a Taeyoung some time and possibly a Fanta kit somewhere down the line.
i thought the stock tae was pretty good, i think it just needs the am5s mostly. the few changes to shaft and actuators havent made a big difference for me.
Anyone with the new Crown buttons try opening the plungers? To my surprise, I have two different stems in my batch.
Can’t quite tell the difference when playing but you guys might have more insight (or more tools) behind it.
I brought that up a few pages back. In my case all except 1 button in the set of 8 I got had the stem that’s in your jab button in that picture. The odd button out was actually dead on arrival when I got it and so I had to be sent a replacement, but if you’re not having any problems then don’t mind it.
I’ve actually had to RMA twice to FA. The second time they let me keep the defective button.
Here’s my defective button:
https://i.imgur.com/omodbj4.jpg
I tried to compare how the two buttons actuate. Maybe the button above is… springier? It’s probably placebo but I’m definitely curious to why there’s two variants.
EDIT: I used the search function and found your post @BolSadguy. I also looked up deskthority’s page. If they reportedly perform the same, I guess I’ll be ok.
I will be at TWT Finals this weekend so if I ever find Saint outside of a match, I will ask him. I am also gonna try to buy Knee’s Green lever over there but I heavily doubt it will happen because tournament.
On a unrelated note, I emailed airbaguy about the Fujin lever recently. From our conversation, the original Fujin lever back in 2011 had a 7mm shaft. My assumption was correct when I was at Evo taking a look at Cyrox’s stick. His Fujin lever looked different from other ones. The reason for the change from 7mm to the normal 9mm was to have arcade operators not worry too much about the wear and tear. Airbaguy finds the 7mm shaft fine outside of arcades, especially for Mishima players. I think he is looking to introduce it in the future. Next to the Taeyoung lever with Golden Fanta parts, the Fujin with the possible reintroduction of the 7mm shaft can be the next best obtainable thing to get Green-like performance.
As for the SuperHwoarang lever, with the power of Google Translate, I think he only made a small amount of kits. While I thought it was gonna be sold on IST due to the use of the Kaze lever body, I think SuperHwoarang is doing this himself. I wonder if it will get wider support so we can toy with them.
EDIT: I was on SuperHwoarang’s stream and apparently he can’t ship the lever kit outside Korea due to obviously high shipping prices. I was gonna use KoreanBuddy to help out in the order but it looks like they are currently out until the end of the 25th. For a moment I thought @marios was still in Korea but I guess we are out of lucky trying to get the kit right now.
Yeah, please do. Very interested to find out why he no longer likes Panasonic switches. I thought they were great, and I’m sure plenty of others are of the same opinion.
took your idea and had a go at myn i found a 15mm stand off thing?? so i bored that to 8mm leaving the fusion one alone chucked in waz’s 8mm shaft turned out really good and the performance is… Wow! cant belive how good it feels and i only been playing for about 30min but feels solid man. This has to be close to green lever setup? i haven’t had a chance to order a tayoung yet but this setup is real nice.
I’ve had bad experiences with the new crown buttons. ordered 8 and 3 were defective, they also stick a lot when they’re brand new and took me a couple of weeks for them to feel smooth.
@EndRant
I second that, I have bought two 8packs of crown SDB-201 buttons (one from arcadeworld and one from focusattack)
one of the packs had 1 dead button, and one that would get stuck every once in a while. i would have to press it with force for it to work again
the other 8pack was ok. other than that the buttons have a distinct springy feel and i like them
@Rokwho awesome man and glad u like it! I’ve been thinking about getting that myoungshin for the actuator since Golden fanta actuators would damage the fujin’s metal plate but just ended up modding the fujin’s actuator because I have an extra fujin. Well if you’re happy with that then don’t bother getting the taeyoung unless you want and even wider throw range. This set up will be the closest thing to having a green arcade lever and the fujin’s actuator is 14.9mm.
Stock taeyoung isn’t bad but the stock actuator imo is absolutely terrible.