Korean arcade parts discussion

[zero_requiem]

i installed it, worked like a charm
you’ll have bend one of the switch leads a little bit to avoid bending the harness cable on the side
friendly tip, look for a harder grommet because the 25g one is a joke (i used a 35g from the 309FJ and it still needs to be a little bit more stiff imho)

I agree completely with it feeling too loose and currently using a 55a shore grommet on it.

[zero_requiem]

By the way, are there any silent switches for korean sticks? I’ve been having evening wifey problems as of late. Got my buttons silenced, but it seems that won’t cut it.

I very much doubt it. If there was a way to modify the omron switches from a sanwa silent jlf that could work with 5 pin conversion. Another option would be to use a silent sanwa mod or optical haybusa at night lol.

[zero_requiem]

hey guys, I’ve been meaning to try a Korean stick for a while, I know most people mod theirs due to preference but what would you guys say it’s the best stock Korean stick? thanks.

Myoungshin fanta stock would be your best bet if you are willing to drill a 35mm hole into your button panel. If not a crown 309mj is pretty good as well. I find s stock taeyoung to be very sloppy due to the shape of the actuator. Most ppl switch the actuator out for the myoungshin’s but you would have to shave a little off the top to fit it in.

[zero_requiem]

So I decided to play around with the 309MJ that had the A2 switches. I put these switches in;

https://www.focusattack.com/new-seimitsu-2017-ls-32-ls-40-187-fastener-microswitch/

and the diagonals feel much easier to hit. Only thing is I had to straighten out the metal lever that hits the switch, otherwise I was getting accidental inputs cause the actuation distance was too short.

Awesome! Just ordered some of these from focus attack just to see how they compare to the Panasonic switches.

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for me it was the taeyoung fanta (the 2017 etokki one that has the soft grommet and gersung A2s)
but really why keep it stock? modding the stick is easy

I wanted something good to start with then mod it to my preference. in terms of japanese levers I like the ls40 and busa with 2lb spring.

Would you be dropping it into a Japanese mount or Korean mount case?

I also feel like it’s still a preference question. A person who’s tried them all could give good insight. Idk who here has. My experience though:

With Japanese mount, has only been crown 303 and 307. I really liked the 303 a lot versus the 307. I even contemplate getting a k-mount version. Thing about it is that the throw is long. Not really comparable to the ls40 you like, but maybe towards the busa you like (I’ve heard they have a farther throw).

As for k-mount, I’ve only messed with a myoungshin fanta and crown’s 309 helpme. I liked them both. Both have their preference, I felt the M-fanta you didn’t have to throw far to actuate the switches and there was more wiggle room between actuation and top collar gate. So I didn’t feel a need to ride the gate with it. I also prefer the tension in it. With the 309, the tension was lighter but was still able to get the job done, won’t tire you out if you use a high movement/execution character for a long session. I liked the Panasonic switches that came with it, it’s a shame they won’t come with them anymore. I feel like I hit the gate more but maybe some ppl prefer that. It’s still a good stock lever though. I tried it with A2’S and A3’S and didn’t feel like I was hindered in anyway with directional input. A3’S felt like it had better feel to make up for the lighter grommet tension.

japanese mount for now until I get an etokki stick probably next year. from what I’ve read so far, the 309helpme/mj seem to be the most popular so I think I’ll go with that since those are compatible with japanese mounts. right?

[zero_requiem]

for me it was the taeyoung fanta (the 2017 etokki one that has the soft grommet and gersung A2s)
but really why keep it stock? modding the stick is easy

I wanted something good to start with then mod it to my preference. in terms of japanese levers I like the ls40 and busa with 2lb spring.

Would you be dropping it into a Japanese mount or Korean mount case?

I also feel like it’s still a preference question. A person who’s tried them all could give good insight. Idk who here has. My experience though:

With Japanese mount, has only been crown 303 and 307. I really liked the 303 a lot versus the 307. I even contemplate getting a k-mount version. Thing about it is that the throw is long. Not really comparable to the ls40 you like, but maybe towards the busa you like (I’ve heard they have a farther throw).

As for k-mount, I’ve only messed with a myoungshin fanta and crown’s 309 helpme. I liked them both. Both have their preference, I felt the M-fanta you didn’t have to throw far to actuate the switches and there was more wiggle room between actuation and top collar gate. So I didn’t feel a need to ride the gate with it. I also prefer the tension in it. With the 309, the tension was lighter but was still able to get the job done, won’t tire you out if you use a high movement/execution character for a long session. I liked the Panasonic switches that came with it, it’s a shame they won’t come with them anymore. I feel like I hit the gate more but maybe some ppl prefer that. It’s still a good stock lever though. I tried it with A2’S and A3’S and didn’t feel like I was hindered in anyway with directional input. A3’S felt like it had better feel to make up for the lighter grommet tension.

japanese mount for now until I get an etokki stick probably next year. from what I’ve read so far, the 309helpme/mj seem to be the most popular so I think I’ll go with that since those are compatible with japanese mounts. right?

Yup should be a straight drop in. Keep in mind you might have to switch out the micro switches since tons of ppl are having problems with the gersung A2’s. If you order from focus attack it should come with gersung A3’s which will be the better option. I for one have no problems with my A2’s that came with it from makestick.

[masked_rider]

Yup should be a straight drop in. Keep in mind you might have to switch out the micro switches since tons of ppl are having problems with the gersung A2’s. If you order from focus attack it should come with gersung A3’s which will be the better option. I for one have no problems with my A2’s that came with it from makestick.

That’s interesting. Is this the standard K-mount 309 you’re using or the 309MJ? All the problems I’ve heard about (and experienced) have been on the 309MJ. I’d be curious to hear if the standard 309 is different.

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I heard a lot about people complaining how the A2 switches weren’t as good as the A3. I’ll wait a little till everything is sorted out and get one from focus attack with the A3 switches. thanks. if I get the mj it’ll just go straight into a te2 without any modifications to the panel or plexi don’t?

[sinonick]

japanese mount for now until I get an etokki stick probably next year. from what I’ve read so far, the 309helpme/mj seem to be the most popular so I think I’ll go with that since those are compatible with japanese mounts. right?

HelpMe comes with a korean mount (notice the K in CWL-309Helpme-K-JMS-ST35) and 309MJ & FJ come with japanese mount (notice the J in CWL-309MJ-JMS-ST25)
in that respect JMS is “japanese microswitch” (panasonics) and KMS is “korean microswitch” (gersungs)

I agree completely with it feeling too loose and currently using a 55a shore grommet on it.

where is the 55a grommet from? I’ve been looking for hardness ratings for the 303/305/307 crowns but couldn’t find any…
thanks to wazwuz i won’t have to worry about that stuff for long now

[Romie]

I heard a lot about people complaining how the A2 switches weren’t as good as the A3. I’ll wait a little till everything is sorted out and get one from focus attack with the A3 switches. thanks. if I get the mj it’ll just go straight into a te2 without any modifications to the panel or plexi don’t?

I had to shave off some plastic inside the regular TE because the switches and wiring harness is much wider than a jlf. TE2 looks like it has more space inside, so should be fine. But you won’t have to modify the panel. It mounts to the jlf bracket fine.

[zero_requiem]

Yup should be a straight drop in. Keep in mind you might have to switch out the micro switches since tons of ppl are having problems with the gersung A2’s. If you order from focus attack it should come with gersung A3’s which will be the better option. I for one have no problems with my A2’s that came with it from makestick.

That’s interesting. Is this the standard K-mount 309 you’re using or the 309MJ? All the problems I’ve heard about (and experienced) have been on the 309MJ. I’d be curious to hear if the standard 309 is different.

Mine is a 309mj. It’s just on my old sfxt vs madcatz stick at the moment. I don’t use it anymore since I have the fanta in my te2+ meow and my etokki. So if anything it’s just there as a back up in case any goes wrong with the other 2. When I order the golden crown kit I’ll be using it in the te2+ with a 309 helpme korean mounted collar version instead.

[zero_requiem]

I heard a lot about people complaining how the A2 switches weren’t as good as the A3. I’ll wait a little till everything is sorted out and get one from focus attack with the A3 switches. thanks. if I get the mj it’ll just go straight into a te2 without any modifications to the panel or plexi don’t?

Yup just make sure it’s the mj that you’re getting.

[zero_requiem]

@sinonick I got them from makestick a couple months ago. It looks like it’s made from the same material as well and it also available in different hardness ratings.

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awesome, thanks to all the peeps that replied.

[sinonick]

@sinonick I got them from makestick a couple months ago. It looks like it’s made from the same material as well and it also comes in different hardness ratings.

oh too bad, makestick doesn’t have a shipping option for my country and they didn’t reply to my email.
know if the 55g crown silicon grommet is available elsewhere?

[Mediastinum]

Could you please sign me up for a Golden Crown kit? And did you decide on adding variable spring tensions for the first batch? Thanks.

[zero_requiem]

@sinonick I got them from makestick a couple months ago. It looks like it’s made from the same material as well and it also comes in different hardness ratings.

oh too bad, makestick doesn’t have a shipping option for my country and they didn’t reply to my email.
know if the 55g crown silicon grommet is available elsewhere?

Oh no that’s unfortunate. Focus attack sells a 60a shore grommet

[masked_rider]

Yup should be a straight drop in. Keep in mind you might have to switch out the micro switches since tons of ppl are having problems with the gersung A2’s. If you order from focus attack it should come with gersung A3’s which will be the better option. I for one have no problems with my A2’s that came with it from makestick.

That’s interesting. Is this the standard K-mount 309 you’re using or the 309MJ? All the problems I’ve heard about (and experienced) have been on the 309MJ. I’d be curious to hear if the standard 309 is different.

Mine is a 309mj. It’s just on my old sfxt vs madcatz stick at the moment. I don’t use it anymore since I have the fanta in my te2+ meow and my etokki. So if anything it’s just there as a back up in case any goes wrong with the other 2. When I order the golden crown kit I’ll be using it in the te2+ with a 309 helpme korean mounted collar version instead.

It’s interesting that you say you don’t have an issue with the diagonals. In my experience, unless you pushed the lever pretty hard against the gate in a very specific spot, you would absolutely not get any diagonal inputs. In actual play, that would’ve pretty much guaranteed to be missed inputs. It’s much better with the Panasonic switches.

Pretty happy with the 309MJ now, just gotta wait for my grommet to come in from Focus Attack. Wanted to try the ones from Makestick but I didn’t want to pay $20 shipping for $2 parts lol.

[zero_requiem]

@“masked rider” I mainly use mishimas and with the 309mj I ride the gate harder than all my other k-sticks. I find the dead zone to be very small on it so you are right about pushing on the diagonals harder. With my fujin v2 and taeyoung I don’t ride the gate much especially since I’m using very stiff grommets.

[N7Khan]

I would also be interested in buying a golden crown kit when they become available.