Should be the cross up jump C, D, F+A, qcf C*2, QS Oswald to jump A/C, Down D, F+A, qcb P, qcf P, qcb k?
If it doesn’t stun, it will after one or 2 random hits.
If Oswald is on his own and he isn’t leader, his threat level drops a few notches. Therefore if you are using a non leader Oswald, you must master QS to Ace combo. That is not to say you don’t have to master that if you are using him as leader of course. XD
However imo, Oswald and Gato are truly fearsome when they are leaders. Kula is good whether she is leader or not although I believe she is the best starter among the S tiers. She just kills so efficiently and effectively.
crossup jC, close D > f+A XX QCF+A > QCF+A(2 hits) QS Oswald, jC/D, close D > df+A XX QCB+C > QCF+C > QCB+B STUN, run to push them to corner, [df+A XX QCF+B > QCF+A > QCF+B > QCF+E] or whatever combo you want to do after the stun, really. That’s just the easiest Ace combo and it should kill them anyhow.
Your variation is probably easier up though… IIRC it’s not full stun except on lower stun resistance characters? shrug it might be, but the variation I posted is more or less the max damage version and I’m pretty sure it’s full stun on normal stun resistance and lower. Not that much harder, really. Just need to hit buttons a little faster.
There’s a lot of leeway to what you can do, of course. Could probably get away with doing Oswald close C/D > f+A instead of df+A, for one thing.
QS to Oswald and coming in with J.C/D is screen specific.
Oswald has to be leader if he’s going to compete with Gato/Kula at all. It’s near impossible to fight these characters with Oswald when he doesn’t have the judgement/is not leader/doesn’t have 2 levels. Gato is too quick on the ground and can AA super, and if you get near Kula she can just roll back - if she didn’t already DP you. Not to mention landing an ACE on Gato means losing an automatic 35% for Oswald.
If Oswald lands the ACE on Gato, Gato can punish Oswald in his recovery with his qcf,qcf+A super. Absolutely free, and makes it more of a necessity when quickshifting to Oswald for an ACE setup that the ACE kills Gato. Unfair.
Credit to Psoul. And yeah the 35% I meant as Oswald’s life lost. :looney:
How do you guys feel about the banning of the Vanessa and/or Oswald (which seems you can roll - don’t use it so I’m not sure) infinites? The Vanessa infinite is actually really easy to do (after the setup) because of the game system - just buffer in the dp before she finishes and double tap C.
It IS the Ace WITH the finisher. After I land it, the actual Ace, Gato doesn’t safefall (because you can’t), but he stands, and does qcf,qcf+A before Oswald recovers. This is also anywhere on the screen, and not when done in the corner - though it works there as well. I can do the ACE starting with Oswald cornered and Gato can still punish before Oswald recovers.
“Anybody can do it” is incorrect as far as I know (but I wouldn’t doubt it - examples would be helpful to know for other characters and Oswald) because it is the actual Ace finisher. So far Gato is the only one we know of that can punish the actual finish mid-screen. I’d assume it’s possible for other characters when the Ace is done in the corner, just because of the lack of need for a quick, far reaching move but instead just a quick one (possibly Clark can LDM here???). He usually plays Malin/Gato/Kula and it’s never happened from the other two characters, wherever I get it. Infact he’s tried with Malin and I counter-supered with the moon slash shit.
My team is Kyo Oswald(L) and Shen. Is this a good team overall? I just mess around with Qs combos with kyo and shen. And oswald is mainly cross ups with a card being thrown first. Any tips?
They can just walk up to Oswald and grab him(assuming that you always try to block after the ace). He doesn’t have to hit you everytime. Anyways to me that’s just the price you pay for that chunk of damage that Oswald makes possible(without meter). Characters like Clark and Tizoc can punish you hard.
Oh and I was referring to the Ace finisher in the corner, I didnt know that you could get punished in the middle too. I thought the opponent landed far away. Thnx for the info.
Yeah thanks for your info too - I didn’t know about the others that punish. Just to make sure these are on connected Aces with the finish and everything right?
What I was kind of getting at is that Oswald - without leader - can’t compete whatsoever with Kula/Gato, which makes getting an Ace a necessity. But then the Ace can be punished…
Hey man I been soooo busy as hell that I’m planning on trying to set up a radio time with Bunkei/Ben next week…don’t worry I aint slacking…I’m just trying to multitask out my ass and be everything for everyone right now.
Draining me…practically…
So don’t worry I will try to get back on the radio next week…I’ve got sooo much to do this weekend…gaming wise of course…but I will be back don’t worry…again and again and again…
