I will be jotting down notes on these vids come tomorrow I assure you…
:badboy:
Like nobody saw that coming Yawn
Oh shit the “Serious” KOF PLayers are coming outta the woodwork I see…
Quietly goes back to playing 3S
Well AF it aint like we are flaming you…
Matter of fact I’m putting it in a non flammatory way…which I am sure you and everyone here appreciates and understands…
Because it all goes back to this question- Are you playing for fun or are you PLAYING TO WIN???
And K4 there is a will…and It Will happen…that is how dedicated I am…We are thinking the same Jorge…
We can beat the Japanese…we will beat them…time is the only determining factor…
I’m with you all the way…and I will be contacting you via AIM tomorrow evening…
Let’s do this shit…It’s us or them…who’s it gonna be??
I will be dissecting those vids to a tee tomorrow evening while online…
Besides combos and pressure strings and stuff, the biggest things to watch for are:
- how they move
- how they use pokes and such to keep the other guy from moving freely
- meter/skill management
Plus you can see little things that add up to cost people matches, like when one guy blows a basic combo to Gato’s LDM which would have killed Kim and probably would have sealed the match… then Kim proceeds to beat the living hell out of Gato.
One thing that kinda got on my nerves was how Kaoru always went for 5 QCB+B > B, even when it was obvious the last one wasn’t going to connect. Lots of missed damage opportunities there, but oh well he won the entire thing pretty handily so shrug.
Random other thoughts:
Oswald seems to have fallen out of favor as leader, as has Kula (except on teams where there is no better leader), and almost every Gato player had him as leader.
Interesting 'cuz I remember lots of people saying it wasn’t worth it to make Gato leader since he’s already so good and making someone else leader makes them that much better… apparently people were underrating Gato’s LDM or something because that thing is a truly match-changing move. Moreso than Ozzy and Kula’s, if you ask me.
Very very interesting CD…I can’t watch it yet but when I do I will take note of EVERYTHING…believe me…from start to finish…first second to last…
No offense at all. Just being random.
Lots of Gato players will do that even though the 5th or 6th one never connects. I always just do 4 and then his rising DM.
beat the japanese? Um…how? Do u have a monkey to drop on Hiroshima?
Do u have King Kong to defend u from Godzilla?
Do u have a muscle car to be a import er hold on that would actually work!
Hmm I am now starting to get use to using the E button =D any thing I should know when to use it ?
basic elizabeth
post i made in guardcrush.com in the elizabeth section,although everyone probably already knows these combos…i figured it wouldn’t hurt to share 
Anywhere:
*close :snkc:, :r: +:snka:, :r: + :snkb:, :dp: + :snka:, :qcf: :hcb: + :snkc:
^solid amount of life at the cost of only one meter
Anywhere:
:dp: +:snkc: , :dp: + :snka:,:qcf: :hcb: + :snkc:
^great if you manage to catch the opponent with an anti air dp+c
after A coup de veine you can…
Grand Rafale
after C coup de veine you can…
u/uf a/b/c/d
A coup de veine
*can replace with super cancelled ldm for MASSIVE DAMAGE
Posting more as i learn it
R1+ circle elizibeth is top tier :p(lol snk)
K4…if you were up here, im sure you’d whip me into shape…and we could go play in canada with my buddies, you’d have a blast…maybe by December?
If I’m not mistaken you can do at mid screen or near a corner :dp:+:snka: then do Grand Rafale DC it into Lizzy’s LDM then the char will wallbounce and can be juggled with another Grand Rafale!
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Meh, I give up on learning Oswald, he isn’t my cup of tea.
I need some Vanessa, Kyo, Ex Kyo, and Kim tatics/combos
That is true, Oswald is a tough character to learn, thats why I love using him :tup:
Im starting to use cheap-ass Kula now!!
yes, how do they poke is the point of my endless discussion on ‘to be always in frame advantage during pressing’
LOCK DOWN YOUR OPPONENT BEFORE GOING TO MIXUP!!!
do you agree with this?
i must disagree with their meter usage…i prefer to go for the killing of a chara if i have the chance…even if they have few pixels
an almost dead partner can be still useful to a tag stun combo so it’t better to take him out when you can
btw i’ve noticed gato a beast as leader when i realized that yuou can easily go for a guard crush to land free damage
and in the SBO vids you can see someone that try this often
The real thing about Gato’s LDM is that it just does SO MUCH DAMAGE. The guardcrush is nice but that brings up one of my points- meter management. People CD counter a lot (well I guess it’s E counter now)… not nearly as much as in older games but still enough that it makes a big impact on the game. Learning when to use them or how to deal with them is pretty important and something that seems to be missing from US players, at least the ones I’ve played.
I’ll go out of my way to kill a character if possible, but that’s not what I meant by meter management. Just watch how and when they use their bar and skill points is what I mean. Most of it is pretty obvious but sometimes there are little things to take note of… plus a few matches decided by super meter, you’ll see if you watch carefully.
ArcadeFire:
It’s not that hard to spot how many you can do, to be quite honest. I can get 5 fairly consistently but I can spot when I don’t have enough height to go past 3-4 as well. I just milk it for as much as possible and then go for whatever normal into super… though obviously close C XX whiff QCF+A, QCFx2+K is the best option for damage + meter gain.
did you know after elizabeth’s fireball thing you can juggle people? I haven’t really looked into what you can do but I’ve gotten a standing a before.
also that 47 character combo movie was lame, except for the jazu part, which was nice.
But man what the fuck was that with kasumi? Lame combo. At least do the full corner combo
J.D st.C f+a hcb,f+a, qcf+c qcb+b. I mean that combo looks way flashier by comparison to the bullshit they did.
…'cuz after Kasumi finally has her opponent in the corner and in a position to maintain pressure, the best thing to do is throw them all the way across the screen OUT of the corner.
Why use oz as leader?When by himself he can do +50% and stun like crazy with shiftcombos?
Why use kula as leader? Shes best to start matches with since she has all the bases covered and she has the crazy 2 meter super almost as good as leaders,and you never put your leader 1st…
so that leaves gato as leader!
I guess since he can combo LDM off light attacks unlike kula and his LDM makes you waste meter to escape he’s the clear winner! :lovin:
Cordorroy…check the last pages of the older thread for cancel stuff I posted in regards to using the E button/CD button.
DaveNK…I posted some Vanessa stuff earlier near the beginning of this thread.
Take a look at it…
As far as Kim stuff, I can send you stuff/post it but for now I am at work…
Look at the older threads for EX Kyo or look in the NeoGeo Battle Coliseum Thread…ask me there and I can dig it up for you…
I can’t type too much now because I’m at work grading papers… 
Interesting observation evilmuff…
Seriously to everyone here…
Before you ask for tactics on something make sure you check either the older threads or the current one…someone may have already covered it in this thread or the previous one…
Lizzy stuff has been covered before too…
I work extra hard to stay ontop of all the latest info…and if its older I already have it archived…so I know mostly if its been covered before to an extreme…
Hmm read up on the E button have a few questions.
How does the other player land behind you for xtra damage?
I notice some players HH (backwards) with E is that a good strat?
Is it practical to use E in the middle of a combo?