Not to ask a stupid question but i’m looking to start playing kof xi… what did they change about duolon that makes him not as god-tier in xi (from 2003)
the thing here is that since we are in the US … and 90% of the american fighting players wont play SNKP games, just coz … they are made by SNKP ( sounds retarded … but its the truth ), when we talk here about playing XI competitively, or which mode should it be played … we are addressing to that minority of 10%.
Since I doubt there will ever be official tourneys for this game, and that only a few actually arrange tournaments ( like the answer ) … the mode for playing will depend on the people that runs them.
So if someone announces a tournament where the stipulations will be 4 example :
Arrange Mode
XXXX characters banned
Damage set to XXXX
No judgement
bla, bla, bla
Its up to u whether u show at the tournament or not.
So quit bitching and start playing.
He just got nerfed in general. He’s still good but not like 2K3 good
Like I said, “almost”.
And don’t give me that crap about Garou, Kevin runs the whole cast like, 9-1.
the main argument for arranged was brought up by someone who wanted a3upper to have a chance…the whole argument is there for silly
with regards to Duolon.
For me its that his qcf x3 no longer juggles on the last hit.
BREAKDOWN:
94: everyone was broke
95: ~same
96: bosses, kyo
97: everyone broke again (grap chars more than others due to the fact that throws didnt whiff)
98: everyone and their mom knows everyone was broke but not that broke (ie someone like mary had a good chance against iori or yamazaki)
99: only char not worth playing was xiangfei
00: in this game strikers had the tiers by the horns
01: same here
02: only sucky char was chin
NW: same here
03: duolon
xi: you know the deal
and besides, i said kof, not snk.
The only way Arranged Mode will be the standard is if SNK updates the KOF XI machines with the Arranged Mode. I would exclude the NGBC characters since they weren’t designed for the XI system and are just a nice bonus for the console owners. Until the Japan players agree that the Arranged Mode is a justified update to KOF XI, you’re going to have to stick with Arcade Mode.
iori and yama maybe but what about O yashiro…
We will make future tourneys in the SoCal area, and they will be in arrange mode without judgement.
If you dont like it … sorry dorry … dont come then. If u dont mind the changes, you are more than welcome to show us what u r made of.
Quit bitching and play.
y helo thar, yashiro and kevin
fixed it
If you’d ever played KoF seriously, you’d know just how laughably wrong that statement is. Apart from maybe the dream match games, EVERY KoF has 3 or 4 dominant characters. '01 Foxy alone destroys your argument.
And people have already stated why multiple tournament formats is a bad idea. The same reason people never embraced A3 Upper… apart from being nowhere near as interesting, splitting an already fractured and small community in to two camps will just destroy it. So people like The Answer and his crew can piss in to the wind and have arrange mode tourneys 'till they’re blue in the face. They just can’t feign surprise when they never get more than the same 15-20 people, a community never develops, and SRK/Evo ignores their pleas for a legit XI tourney.
Jesus you fags are playing without judgement on too!? God you guys suck.If you wanna play KOF2003 just play that.
Wow… I seriously don’t understand why this is even an argument. As pointed out before, Arranged mode isn’t perfect either. IIRC someone posted a 60% damage combo with Geese from a BnB combo into a super. Uhhhhhhh, ok? 
But seriously, Arcade mode is really the best choice, and page 2 already explains and covers all that. The thing I don’t understand is this:
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Where I’m from, it was so easy to run into a KoF XI machine. Hell, I saw more KoF XI machines than I did MvC2 when the game first came out. The game was rather popular and well known even by people who were not into fighters. And thats because I live near some poor mexicans. Shit, I wonder how many arcades they had set-up up north.
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Who the fuck ever said that Arcade mode was overlooked? Shit…
EDIT: Just saw this post;
I lol’d at the irony from that comment.
KOF has dominant chars.? what about stupid fuckin 3S & MVC2 heh heh?!?!?!
What’s your point? Every game has that problem, pretty much. SNK games are no exception. This is what we’re trying to get at.
Btw, I forgot to mention that secret characters will be banned ( Geese, EX Kyo, etc ).
Judgement hurts grapplers. Time can be ending, you have judgement on your favor, and your opponent is clark. You can just simply start playing turtle, blocking everything, and not worrying about him grabbing you, coz judgement slightly turns when u do a special throw.
This game was made based on rushdowns basically … the more u attack, the more judgement comes to ur favor. But what about other players that dont like to rushdown ? that likes to poke, play at a distance, measure the enemy ? … they will be at a disadvantage with the judgement system. Thats why playing without judgement makes those kind of players ( plus grapplers ) competitive. I know there are beasts out there that play with grapplers … but with judgement out of commission, nobody can complain.
Besides, instead of worrying on a judgement bar in the upper middle oprtion of the screen, it will be better to worry in the players lifebar … thats how it always has been right ? Even 3S is played without judgement.
Haha, fuck, I USE Daimon. 
Not top tier at ALLLL
gets 15 more wins on Kaillera
3S’s judgement is practically random, though. Judgement in XI is easy to perceive. Totally different story. XI judgement doesn’t favor comebacks anyway, so I don’t see why there should be any particular exception because grapplers don’t do well on Judgement in the last few seconds. Should have thought of that earlier in the match, your best bet is to just go for the kill.