KOF 2K2 Thread

[Emil]

kusa’s dp have autoguard and a very nice hitbox

The autoguard on the dp is great but Kyo’s dp+C is invincible at startup.

kusa have an easier hitconfirmable BC combo while kyo have only a standard C BC run C… kusa can use his fwdB to hitconfirm

He can start a BC combo from df+D, easier than Kusanagi can (since Kyo’s close C is faster than Kusanagi’s).

in corner both can do a BC combo maybe kyo’s is easier to connect

One bad thing is that Kusanagi’s BC combo that utilizes f+B’s in the combo, do not work most of the time on crouching opponents (f+B doesn’t combo).

kusa’s hsdm can be used from a quickpress…difficult to land but possible…i don’t see pratical use of kyo’s

If you’re an expert at doing instant run up throws (hcb, run up hcb+AC), it can be good…if you make the opponent fear you and jump around, you can just do the SDM orochinagi (which is almost pretty much unpunishable.

Lately I’ve been practicing Kyo’s delayed orochinagi combos and they actually are not that hard. WIth Kyo, you can do df+D(two hits), qcb hcf+BC(to BC cancel and do orochinagi immediately), delay it for 0.4-0.8 seconds and it will combo. My accuracy with this combo is about 95%, so it isn’t as hard as I had initally thought.

Damnit, I had a really good youtube video of a killer Kusanagi, but the guy’s account got suspended now for some reason…so no video.

[System_1]

He can start a BC combo from df+D, easier than Kusanagi can (since Kyo’s close C is faster than Kusanagi’s).

right, but after 20 mins of practice to understand timings i can do kusa’s with 100% rate of success

One bad thing is that Kusanagi’s BC combo that utilizes f+B’s in the combo, do not work most of the time on crouching opponents (f+B doesn’t combo).

it doesn’t link on small hitboxed characters

If you’re an expert at doing instant run up throws (hcb, run up hcb+AC), it can be good…if you make the opponent fear you and jump around, you can just do the SDM orochinagi (which is almost pretty much unpunishable.

i dunno wich kind of opponents you face but i will never fall for ascrubby game like that (alternate guard in primis)
afterall even if someone decide to use a similar strat he’ll suffer the -30% damage due to BC mode until he grab the opponent

Lately I’ve been practicing Kyo’s delayed orochinagi combos and they actually are not that hard. WIth Kyo, you can do df+D(two hits), qcb hcf+BC(to BC cancel and do orochinagi immediately), delay it for 0.4-0.8 seconds and it will combo. My accuracy with this combo is about 95%, so it isn’t as hard as I had initally thought.

kusa can do the same at the first hit of dfD but pulling it off is a real pain

Damnit, I had a really good youtube video of a killer Kusanagi, but the guy’s account got suspended now for some reason…so no video.

youtube sucks

[Emil]

right, but after 20 mins of practice to understand timings i can do kusa’s with 100% rate of success

It’s not really about practice. If you land his df+D from a reasonably far distance, you can NEVER run up fast enough for a close C.

it doesn’t link on small hitboxed characters

No it doesn’t work on almost all characters, when they are crouched. The f+B doesn’t combo from some characters even if they are standing up. It works on Athena for instance, but not on Kensou, and I think Athena’s hitbox is smaller than Kensou’s.

i dunno wich kind of opponents you face but i will never fall for ascrubby game like that (alternate guard in primis)
afterall even if someone decide to use a similar strat he’ll suffer the -30% damage due to BC mode until he grab the opponent

Eh, this has nothing to do with alternate guard…since you are assuming you had blocked an attack beforehand. Alternating guard against Kyo is dangerous because of his df+D anyway.

[System_1]

It’s not really about practice. If you land his df+D from a reasonably far distance, you can NEVER run up fast enough for a close C.

oh, i was talking about the corner combo involving dfD into jump down C
that combo you said is really not so much pratical…it’s better to save stocks instead to take that risk

Eh, this has nothing to do with alternate guard…since you are assuming you had blocked an attack beforehand. Alternating guard against Kyo is dangerous because of his df+D anyway.

dfD once kyo is maxed isn’t so much a problem.
yes, he still can cancel into dokugami but remember that alternating guard is not only dancing all the day waiting for your opponent to waste mixups on you…one of the main purpose is to scare your opponent to throw attempt, so if you see he’s not going to throw you, you have to move your ass out there

but any strat that involve a character maxing then trying any mixup is easy avoidable…plus the fact that you can take some risks because his damage is reduced

[System_1]

btw, emil do you have some consistent angel infos?such as in depht faqs or tutorials?

[Tizoc]

So I gave Kusanagi a try, he seems pretty good.
I find that J. C–>St. C–>HCB+D does good damage.
I’m not too fond of the BC/MAX mode in 2002, but does that still mean that my play is good?

[Emil]

So I gave Kusanagi a try, he seems pretty good.
I find that J. C–>St. C–>HCB+D does good damage.
I’m not too fond of the BC/MAX mode in 2002, but does that still mean that my play is good?

There is no reason not to be fond of the combos. If you can do them, they will win you many more games than if you didn’t use them.

If you are trying to punish the opponent, doing Close C, f+B(2 hits), qcb hcf+C will combo. Just remember, if they are crouching, then the f+B won’t combo properly. Also, it doesn’t really combo if you start it from a jump attack, unless you crossed up (with say, jump d+C).

[Tizoc]

^Yeah I know, at the corner, I tend to go with-
J. C–>St. C–>DM

[Emil]

^Yeah I know, at the corner, I tend to go with-
J. C–>St. C–>DM

No, in the corner you should be doing the generic jump B, Close C, qcf+DD, orochinagi…or instead of orochinagi, do rdp+B, dp+C.

[Tizoc]

^Ooops sorry I forgot to mention that I DO do the Double Kick after the Standing C ^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;. Thanks again tho :tup:

[Emil]

For whoever wanted some Angel info (and no Rengoku, I don’t know any guides), I have compiled a list of all the matches I have featuring Esteban, the best Angel in the world (probably).

Esteban vs. Archi
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Khannibal vs. Esteban(last round)
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Ruy vs. Esteban
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Luis Cha vs. Esteban
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Esteban vs. Khannibal 1
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Esteban vs. Khannibal 2
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Esteban vs. Khannibal 3
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Abraham vs. Esteban 1
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Abraham vs. Esteban 2
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Abraham vs. Esteban 3
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Abraham vs. Esteban 4
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Some other very good Angels worth checking out:

Adrian vs. Kula 1
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Adrian vs. Kula 2
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Khannibal vs. Kula 1
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Khannibal vs. Kula 2
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Marin vs. Juarez 1
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Marin vs. Juarez 2
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Abraham vs. Tarahumara 1
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Abraham vs. Tarahumara 2
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[System_1]

very nice matches…
now i have something to work on

btw, do you have the original vid?can you host if i give you any space?

[Das_Lynx]

For whoever wanted some Angel info (and no Rengoku, I don’t know any guides), I have compiled a list of all the matches I have featuring Esteban, the best Angel in the world (probably).

Thank you!!
Got some watching to do

[Tizoc]

^If you have Media Player Classic, leech them vids using Keepvid.com

[System_1]

i’ve recorded our kof2k2 matches yesterday. i’ll post some of the videos… you can watch the rest of the videos on my youtube profile

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[Emil]

i’ve recorded our kof2k2 matches yesterday. i’ll post some of the videos… you can watch the rest of the videos on my youtube profile

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Based on the first match…I like that guy’s Kyo, but those guys never took advantage of the opportunities they got. First off, why did the Kim supercancel the charge kick into the rush DM, that is useless. If he cancelled it into qcfx2+K, then did charge down u+D, he would have done way more damage for less difficulty.

[System_1]

Based on the first match…I like that guy’s Kyo, but those guys never took advantage of the opportunities they got. First off, why did the Kim supercancel the charge kick into the rush DM, that is useless. If he cancelled it into qcfx2+K, then did charge down u+D, he would have done way more damage for less difficulty.

i was thinking the same thing, lol… well, i told him that he should have done the chard dwn up+D, he said that he just tried if he could pull off the combo.

[Nightwing1990]

whats the code for kusanagi??

[System_1]

u d r l d u l r

[System_1]

emil,
do you still have those vids from the jap guy against the cpu on your hard disk?
can you send to me?