Yes it is true but…
In the grand scheme of things for the Justice League movie I feel like it is a missed opportunity to highlight Wonder Woman’s character and make her stand apart from Batman and Superman. I will say that he at least seemed appropriately distressed though.
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I consider it iconic and to many Wonder Woman fans I believe it is.
Superman killing is not the issue. He has killed before and that is fine. But it is a missed opportunity to show the differences between the trinity. Superman is the golden boy. Batman is the vigilante. Wonder Woman is the warrior. Like I said, in the scheme of the movie it makes perfect sense and is believable. I’m just saying it feels like a missed opportunity in the grand scheme of the DC cinematic universe.
Also: that’s because we are only talking about this one facet of her character. Of course there is more to her than that. I’m just saying it is a missed opportunity. I’m not saying it’s damning Wonder Woman to a horrible movie. It’s just a story angle that now cannot be told.
[details=Spoiler]So was Stabler Guardian? Regardless he was badass. And Faora gave me wood. Every time she was on screen it was pure sex. Maximus was really convincing as Jor-El and Shannon’s always creepy as fuck so him as Zod worked just fine. Was also glad to see Morpheus wasn’t “angry black Mr. White”, he’s more Cosby than Bernie Mac; thank Rao.
References and easter eggs everywhere in this flick, definitely worth another viewing. Much better than Returns. Now very interested to see if and how they implement Kryptonite in this series.[/details]
One thing they never explained, how do heightened Kryptonian senses give you heat vision?
Which sets her apart no? For good or for bad. (I’m assuming bad for you because you seem pretty harsh towards the character?)
You must have never been given the cut-eye by an angry black woman. It just exists.
Me and a buddy have 9hrs to kill before Man of Steel
I don’t know if I’ll be able to contain myself when the credits start to roll
True but in her moral compass she doesn’t view killing people as something terrible that must be avoided. Either at all costs like Batman or unless its completely necessary like Superman. She’ll try to work things out but she isn’t going to put anybody else in danger by trying to spare a villain.
My first impressions, uncolored by anybody else’s, straight from my brain to your eyeballs.
Spoiler’d on general principle.
[details=Spoiler]First thing’s first: I dug Henry Cavill as Superman. I thought he delivered enough human touches that he brought out the personality not only in his own character, but in the actors who shared scenes with him. In my observation, Superman is a difficult character to portray–he has to be tough and big-hearted at the same time. Everyone from actors to writers has to find a way to deal with that abstraction. In movies, when the writing doesn’t do it, the buck stops at the actor.
It helps that Cavill’s face is open and not exactly chiseled in the way that superhero faces tend to be. He smiles like someone who can’t help it, as opposed to some actors (e.g. Tom Cruise) who smile like they practice it in a mirror.
On the writing, I’m not sure it fell down on the job, but it didn’t exactly shoot for artistry, either. It did strictly what it was supposed to do, in that it delivered the exposition and moved the story from scene to scene… sometimes a little too briskly, particularly in the fast-forward first act. And its treatment of the characters in general was mechanical. Secondary characters did and said all the right things, but there wasn’t much of a sense that those things were a natural outgrowth of who they were and how they’d naturally respond. This is a weakness shared by other movies involving Christopher Nolan and his collaborators. People talk about their point of view like they’re reading it off the back of the DVD case.
For this reason, how warm and authentic characters seemed was largely dependent on the investment of the actors. Some did well, some did not. (This often depends on how close to Cavill they are in the frame… maybe drawing out characters’ humanity is his superpower.) There’s trouble when the military guys are more interesting than old Superman buddies like Professor Hamilton and Perry White. Scenes centering around the secondary characters are cold and emotionally uninvolving.
In the mixed bag department, Zod is basically a walking character description, though Michael Shannon sprays spittle with the best of them. He brings a lot of malice and he takes his character’s fascist inclinations seriously–not an Olympic feat by movie supervillain standards, but he does a good job. As for Amy Adams, she brings personality and chemistry to the role. That’s very fortunate, because Lois Lane is criminally underwritten. This is supposed to be a super woman, worthy of the interest of a super man. I’m not sure Lois is that woman on the page, but Adams strives to be that woman on the screen. She’s a real actress. I don’t think she has it in her to not put her shoulder to the wheel, even in a role that doesn’t demand much of her.
As far as the liberties the film took with previously established elements of mythology… everybody’s going to talk about them. I get it. Yet I find it kind of pointless. Superman has weathered 75 years of tinkering, changes, and evolution. Some of them are subtle, some not. As long as they don’t violate anything fundamental to the character, there’s plenty of room for stories in which things don’t play out in the same broad strokes as they have previously. My hope is that whichever stories await this version of the character down the pike, they don’t forget about or try to retcon these liberties. Changes and unexpected developments are only interesting if the storytellers are committed to them. If they lead into the status quo later on, they have to do it honestly. And if they lead elsewhere, so much the better.
I guess the big question that most people want answered is, did the movie deliver? Probably as much as it had to–mainly in the form of noisy visuals, pounding percussive music, computer effects in every other shot, lots of fistfighting, explosions, things crashing into each other, technobabble, laser beams, and so on. For me, as someone with something of a preexisting interest, the more important takeaway was the warm portrayal of the lead character and the virtues that he struggles to embody. Every generation should have a Superman, and if this generation accepts Cavill’s version as its own, I don’t mind. Acceptable movie, good Superman.[/details]
I’ll probably have more to say later on, but these are my first impressions and I’ll have to let the movie marinate a while longer.
My favorite thing about that scene is that the rig workers didn’t even think twice about the sight of him. Like, “Fuck it. I’d rather die with the crazy fire guy than die down here.”
[details=Spoiler]Wonder Woman’s initial position on killing is that she does it willfully and without qualms. Her establishing character development would lie in learning not to resort to such violence. Not quite the case in this movie.
It’s also a misconception that Superman refuses to kill under any circumstances. The interesting thing is that most superheroes don’t kill and the ones who do don’t have much of a hangup about it… except Superman, who absolutely tortures himself over it in the very rare event that he takes a life. It’s not something he does lightly or gets over quickly.[/details]
Is there an end credit scene? I am getting conflicted reports, and don’t want to sit around for 5 hours to watch Superman eating a falafel or someth ing.
some people are saying there is one, some are saying their isn’t one. That seems quite conflicting.
the internet. Is a yes/no answer beyond you?
ahhhh thanks.
I’m seeing this in a few hours, trying to avoid as much news as I can, but it’s everywhere already 
I read the WORST review from the Chicago Sun-Times last night complaining about them going back to the origin of Superman again. AGAIN? It hasn’t been done on the big screen in over 30 years. And people wonder why newspaper’s are dying
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/movies/20677169-421/man-of-steel-beset-by-kryptonite.html
just saw it, those fight scenes put some hair on my chest
Just saw it, I thought it was okay, good overall.
I enjoyed the film, in that world I really like Cavill as Superman. Action was great, Score masterful, and the overall take on Superman was good. Dont even get me started on the MVP of the movie Kevin Costner. The scenes with him and Clark are outstanding.
8.8/10
From the reviews I’m seeing it looks like superman is the most manly super hero movie to date…has blade 1 finally been dethroned.
An incomplete list of good things about the movie:
cgi destruction
[details=Spoiler]* The best things about this film are the portrayals by Costner and Crowe as father figures to Clark.
