that was posted march 23rd and liked by you so i had thought you got the idea from there…however the video does pre-date my post by a few months so i guess not haha!
either way this is useful stuff for any nova player…especially those who run anchor nova!
oh shit LMAOO you’re right…I definitely did see this lmao…damn…real crazy coincidence >_<…At least now we know how to consistently get the link.
Apparently this weekend, at whatever that major that took place (which I obv saw 0 of), tokido ran nova strange vergil. Coincidentally id messed with the same team this weekend, except with vergil 2nd. Did anyone see any of his play, and therefore know what he was using as his BNB with strange 2nd? Just regular stuff into a rapid slash extension dhc’d into spell of vishanti? Or did he do something clever to ToD?
Frickin bizarre to try out a nova idea then find out tokido played it too lol
Sorry man, didn’t watch any of the matches he ran that team, I personally don’t have much love for that team structure. The only reason I think running strange is acceptable on nemo’s team is because he can go into the impact palm loops, on that team your literally just playing 2 characters since strange has no real assist to use, and good luck playing strange with no assist.
I watched some of his matches but none of them were pretty, and he didn’t get much going with Nova during any of them. The most confusing thing to me was that he used Nova to counterpick a Wolverine team (iirc it was Rog’s) so idk what the hell was going on.
Strange with Rapid Slash might not be that bad though, he could get some incoming mixups with it at least and limited zoning application. However I don’t think it’s a very solid team.
I respectfully disagree. I think the order nova vergil strang would be quite good, so I’m ASSUMING his idea is to, after nova builds some meter and dies, sov dhc vergil. Strange with RS doesn’t seem to crazy, but vergil with a momentum backed by bolts is bonkers. That’s why I was asking about his combo, figuring he had a logical reason for his order besides, “vergil anchor gooood.” But maybe he doesn’t lol
But anyway, nova and vergil backed by bolts is mad solid, imo. Even, “really good.”
Nova/Vergil/Strange seem ok
I would prefer Strange/Vergil though just for TACs and potential THC shenaningans. After SoV, grace of hoggoth until the opponent is fallen to the ground. FoF and go on from there.
Nova/Vergil/Doom or Doom/Vergil is probably better though
I dunno, I just think it’s lacking in synergy in the order he was playing it. His Nova and Strange looked green to say the least, so naturally Vergil came off as insurance and not a fluid part of the team. As such the only combo I saw was I NEED MORE POWER, NOW I’M MOTIVATED, HURH WHAH HRUH HWOWH
It’s not really a bad team but it doesn’t seem like a particularly great one either. It’s very Japanese, I’ll say that.
Well again, I do think the ideal order would be nova vergil strange. Especially if a dhc to swords yields more dmg than to sov (which is why I asked my initial question). With some teams I just like to put my intended point or anchor 2nd and dhc or tac into the correct order. (Arbitrary example mag dorm/morri doom… I want dorm/morri first, but want to shockwave into astral/flare) So I def prefer vergil strange over strange vergil. But if there was some tactical nova-centric reason to have strange 2nd, I was curious about that. (And its certainly possible there’s not, aside from the fact you have to anchor vergil to get japanese citizenship)
I doubt it, plus he was countering Wolverine with Nova which I think is pretty dumb if you’re not experienced in the matchup. And he got blown up for it. I agree that Nova/Vergil/Strange is the best order, I just feel like it’s really top-heavy and falls apart if any one of its characters die since Vergil and Strange both have awful incoming options.
Def agree regarding the wolvie counter. I just feel like tokido, the man known for maximizing the cheap, had to have SOME kind of idea. Unless it really just was ‘bolts nova is good, vergil anchor is good. = good’ that’d be a bit dissapointing. But ya never know lol. That’s why I thought maybe he had some kind of crazy combo up his sleeve.
Well its workable, obviously. You have two really good point characters and a really good assist, but like vigilante said, its extremely top heavy(if you play the nova/vergil/strange order) and usually falls apart once nova dies since strange and vergil are kinda free on incoming. I personally prefer vergil/hawkeye, vergil/magneto or vergil/doom. If your running strange you might as well just stick vergil in the back and go full retard, I mean why run vergil in the middle when he is going to be getting snapped into the middle anyway? Why do your opponents job for them? I know for a fact if I ran into tokido’s team I wouldn’t think twice about snapping out strange for vergil.
But to each his own I guess, a lot of people would advise against running sentinel, yet I run him anyway. If you wanna find footage of nova/strange go look up yipes matches at youmacon, I believe he ran that team the whole way through. Vergil/strange on the other hand, I can’t help you with unfortunately.
Time out…not knocking the convo or anything…but this is the combo thread…not the team thread lmao…but yeah I saw that team…it was basically just another “two characters and Vergil for the derpfactor” team
Id been running nova vergil hawk a lot, and just had the thought to see how it is with bolts. Hawk is no less free on incoming than strange. And yipes def makes xxx vergil hawk work out. Yes the point spencer tods pretty well, but its still the same downside if he dies. So by transitive property nova vergil hawk/strange seems not much less solid -shrug-. For bolts nova there’s also nemo and combofiend.
I just have 0, nay NEGATIVE interest in playing spencer. But currently ONLY want to play nova. And as much as I really like doom, I just find myself not liking the confirms off plasma so much. So I’ve been experimenting with other strong assists for nova in its stead. I LOVE drones for nova, but sadly they come with a free robot (pun depressingly intended). So was just trying to think of a non-spencer fellow bolts abuser. Dante would be fantastic if I didn’t suck with him. Hehe. The bolts thing may just be a fad for me, I’m just giving each strong nova assist a fair shot.
Yeah I was thinkin about that too, just felt weird to move it mid-convo. Lol in our defense, it did begin with a combo question 
I could end up being totally wrong, and def didn’t see the matches, but slapping together a random non synergized team just doesn’t seem like something tokido would do. Back when he played this game rogue yoshi ran dante strange vergil, and had tons of tech for it. Nova seems like an improvement
I’m just playin devils advocate, btw. Not trying to be disagreeable or argue a lost point. But from what I’m hearin tokido never really got anything going. Assuming HE is to blame for that, maybe there IS an idea there somewhere (devils advocate!)
Any recommendations for midscreen combo off a grab?? (On topic!) Not including hard tag otg stuff, well aware of all that.
Honestly, for Nova/Vergil, Vergil sounds more fun second, just becuase of how well he uses Centurion Rush, then you can throw a beam assist behind him and he’s just as deadly, or close enough. Then throw a good fast assist on there and you’re set. I don’t think Strange is the best fit for anchors there, though.
Hawkeye, Plasma, Dante, Taskmaster. Vajra maybe. Arthur Daggers and Unibeam for masochists.
But yeah, woops, this isn’t the team thread…need to find a purpose for this post.
Anyone got the notations for the corner up TAC infinite setup?
To be honest, you know how when people do side TAC, they diagonal dash back then rocket punch? I do the same thing but I dash down…i know there is a a better version out there though
I’d recommend Strange over Hawkeye just because Bolts lets you setup Cent Rush/RocketPunch mixups.
I don’t think it’s possible, but can anyone come up with a way for nova to get an opponent out of the corner during a combo without using his wallbounce?
He might be able to dash under them after a j. :h:. Other than that, I don’t think its possible since his air dahs down forward is so slow.