Is PC gaming really on the rise, while console gaming is declining?

For $230? That’s ridiculous!

Ridiculously good…

As someone who knows squat about PC parts, everything you listed sounds relatively okay.

For reference, AMD’s best offering in graphics is currently Radeon HD 7000, and yours is HD 4200. I can’t tell you how it stacks up but it’s certainly good.

You can totally play pirated games online.

I mean, there are even youtube tutorials on how to do it in various games. I wont post it here but if you dont believe me google and piratebay are your friends.

nudge nudge wink wink

Sagers are easy as all fuck to upgrade.

No fucking shit you do not buy a laptop to game.

If you do, you’re fucking up.

The same can be said for a PC, though.

You buy a laptop for a convenient portable device that has enough power to run desktop apps at good to excellent performance levels.

Most people in here understand that coming in to the PC gaming discussion, though.

Yeah I do understand that, I was just curious to why people are always bashing alienware laptops. Is that deal worth the money though? I’m planning onupgrading later. For now I just want to fuck around with emulators old ps1 & 2 games , CS, GGPO & Supercade, not really any super 2009+ graphic games.

Because Alienwares are overpriced and aren’t even that good.

No, the HD 4200 will literally not be able to play any game on lowest settings. The only thing you can use that card for is random web surfing/desktop applications. The processor is also pretty crap, but it’s serviceable I guess. You’ll need to buy your own video card for around $80 minimum, and the end result will be a $300 rig that can play any game at low/medium settings, but won’t have a lot of longevity.

For comparison’s sake, you could spend $500 and get a build that will last you for 4-5 years. Up to you what the better value is.

Edit: I checked some reviews on the card, there are a few people saying they can run some modern games with it, some other people saying they can’t. I guess you can give it a shot and just upgrade the video card if it doesn’t work.

I’m running on Radeon X600 so HD 4200 or whatever sounds spectacular from my perspective. :coffee:

They’re basically identical. Here’s a video of a guy trying to play D3 on one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcE7f7JRk8A

My recommendation would still be to go with a full custom build, but, $230 is very good value for all of that stuff, especially considering just a case+monitor+peripherals would run you like $130 without any hardware at all. Just realize the quality of all of those things will not be as high as if you picked them out yourself.

Oh I guessed right! I was on ebay looking up power supply, graphics cards, CPU, RAM, and said " hmm should be around 300." Then I took into account price drops by next year cause new cards coming out, yeah should be good. Thanks Celerity, your the best!

I almost can’t even see a reason to buy a console anymore. I have a PS3, but that’s only because someone gave it to me. It’s a great machine and I’ve enjoyed it, but the more I hear about the next gen consoles, the more I think I’m going to be leaving console gaming behind. It seems like PC is finally getting some more love from publishers that have traditionally focused more on consoles.

You get a decent PC and you can play not only current PC stuff but a lot of great past PC games too. Plus you have basically the whole history of gaming basically available for free online without having to do any jailbreaking.

@Yorkey Never get an all-in-one computer. You don’t even know if you can even upgrade for sure later on, you might need a new PSU to support a better CPU+GPU or even a new motherboard(though that one supports DDR3 RAM so you might be good.)

You’re way better off saving an extra few hundred bucks and building one yourself, that PC won’t even be able to do PS2 emulation well. You’d need a way better processor and GPU.

I have a lower mid PC that runs just about everything right now, PS2 emulation on it is pretty solid but keep in mind PS2 emulation is barely even scratched yet so don’t be surprised if some games barely run if at all. For the most part Dreamcast games run on it easily as well.

But yeah save that lunch money son, look around for deals at places like newegg or set up a list parts you could snag around Black Friday.

k, I tried to come up with a build for $300, this is about as close as I was able to get. Note that it does not include a monitor.

DIYPC Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353019
Intel Celeron G1610: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116889
Gigabyte Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128575
Radeon HD6670 1GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102988
600W PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256071
4GB RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211795
1TB HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W00YU4026
Total: $372.74

Now, I’m sure you could find some better deals than this or optimize it a little better, but this is just what I scraped together. It’s approximately one million times better than the premade HP, and will play any modern game at medium-high settings. Furthermore, and more importantly, it will be fully upgradeable for many years to come. I recommend building something like this and saving up for a monitor. Find a friend to assemble it for you. Look for deals to bring the price down.

If you want to spend more, upgrade the CPU to an i3-3240 for a massive difference. Extra RAM is also recommended, but you can add that whenever you can spare another $30.

That GPU doesn’t even have GDDR5 memory. :rofl:

Don’t skimp on your processor/GPU. They’re the most important parts to get if you want to play games on PC. That motherboard and memory is fine, though. Mobos with Crossfire/SLI support aren’t needed unless you want to have dual videos card running, but no game correctly uses the 2nd GPU, so imo, it’s way better to just go with a single really good GPU.

It just depends on how much you want to spend. Going from DDR3 to GDDR5 on the 6670 will run you $20 extra for a 8-10% performance increase, which I agree is worth it, but the guy said he only has $230 to his name. It would take a lot of extra money (~$150) to get to the sweet spot for value on a GPU and CPU.

Listen…fuck all that. You can totally get a PC capable of gaming for less than 1000 bucks.

I just got the new slim model HP Pavilion for around 450 bucks. Put in a better graphics card, rounding out to around 550 bucks.

I’m playing Saints Row IV, Resident Evil 5, Left 4 Dead 2…everything.

One thing I hate about PC gamers is how they refuse to accept the fact that PC gaming used to suck the chrome end of a 57’ Chevy bumper.

Back in the early 80’s, PC’s were extremely expensive and WERE NOT meant for gaming. A low end machine with no hard drive or monitor included would cost you anywhere from 1k to 1.5k USD. Meanwhile, arcade gaming was pioneering new technology like 3D polygons, voice sampling, and utilizing Laser Discs. I think the most powerful consumer grade computer of the early 80’s was marginally more powerful than a NES, but that doesn’t mean much if you have to shell $3000+ for a two year advantage.

It wasn’t until the late 80’s & early 90’s when PC gaming gained some ground. The introduction of video streaming codecs and making GUI operating systems forced people to improve GPU and CPU power. But even then, PC gaming was still a novelty.

Back in 1993 or early 1994, my dad inherited a 486DX2 (I think it was a Gateway 2000) from his workplace after the parent company dissolved. Though it had better technology than the 16 bit systems, and even a 3D0, it still sucked. I would only play Doom and Wolfenstein since all other PC games used to suck ass back in the early 90’s.

Shit, even back in the early 90’s, PC gaming was still technologically inferior to one field… and that was arcade gaming. There were no consumer grade computers in 1994 that could have ever dreamed of running Daytona USA or any Model 2 game at full power. In fact, it stayed like that until 1996 or 97-ish when the internet became commonplace.

It was only at the turn of the century when PC gaming finally surpassed all fields of gaming. Thankfully, this was also the time when we started seeing more ports that were actually worth the money.

My theory is that newcomers to PC gaming are more likely to be spouting that “master race” bullshit out of their mouths. While PC gaming has the hardware advantage, what it doesn’t have is the game advantage. While PC gaming is better for shit like shooters, RTS’, or any game designed for a mouse and keyboard, the fact is that it will never have unique titles.

/rant

Who the fuck makes an argument about PC gaming based on the PCs of 30 years ago? Most people in this thread probably haven’t been alive that long.

Huh.

Haven’t we established that PC has tons of successful exclusive titles? Like the ones you are implying in the first half of your sentence??

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