I stopped reading there.
Personally, I donāt care about all the bells and whistles (survival/trials/story/etc). I HATED the fact you had to unlock characters and colors in SF4. The only thing I care about in a fighting game is fighting other players and thatās where this game has failed. It is absolutely UNPLAYABLE online. So now I have a fighting game where all I can do is play arcade mode against shitty AI. No doubt many fighting game fans turned right around and returned KOF once they realized this. Me, Iām going to wait and see what happens when the patch comes out but if it doesnāt fix the netcode Iāll be in my car on the way to Gamestop to get my 60 bucks back. Such a waste of a potentially good fighting game 
Girl?
Oh, Iām going to be mentally reeling from that one, ouch.
I donāt see how giving specials on the analogue stick is a bad thing for new players.
And hell, if you lose to someone like using them, youāre the one that looks bad, not them.
good that was actually pretty funny:wgrin: even though you have read all my other post this one was no execption, there no good argument for wat i posted. Inorder to not have to wait between round for the shit to load u have to download and use up all this memory for a game that shouldnt have been 60 dollars in the first placeā¦yea ok fuck outta here they need TO PATCH THAT SHIT.
Seriouslyā¦
I know exactly what you mean.
Iām sure the engine is great when you learn it but no matter how you look at it KOF XII is an unfinished product and untill the netcode is fixed not worth playing. The only place I can see it succeeding is among hardcore fans because it sure as heck wonāt atract many new players to try it.
Im not the one butt hurt here getting all defensive with personal attacks.
When did I mention anything about specials on analog stick? Are you slow or something, must be the reading comprehension skills. I was talking about command inputs and shortcuts.
wow iāve never really had a problem with load screens cept for some online matches and that was just lag which i donāt give a shit about till after the patch and i never install any of my games to the HD since i have a shitty 20 gig HD >.<
Iām not going to flood this thread with mere arguments so Iāll keep things to a minimum from now on.
Chibi, your opinion is appreciated but I still donāt think youāre getting the point Iām trying to get at. Youāre still focused on the fact that these extra modes will help you level up in such a way that youāll actually be a real good player. Iām just saying thatās complete bs if you think these extra modes will help generate outstanding results.
Now I can agree with you that perhaps they shouldāve catered the game to the casual crowd, but iām sure SNK isnāt retarted. Soon enough, the casual gamers will come around once thereās a reason to. Right now, all these morons on the site are bad mouthing it so of course the attention is going to be drawn away.
Iām one of the serious players who is trying to motivate casual gamers to get involved because itās not as bad as people are portraying it to be. Again, not to regurgitate but seriously wait until this game picks up before we start throwing curve balls
This game and the the KOF forum will be dead within a month if they donāt fix the netcode. Chibi was also right about the trial/survival/unlockables. I personally donāt care for those things but sheās 100% correct in that those things appeal to casual gamers and help people learn and get into a game. Actually I take back that I donāt care for those things because right now Iād KILL for that āextra contentā (itās not really extra since itās the standard for fighting games now) because all I have are Arcade and practice mode. Oh and I can look at some picturesā¦ thanks SNKP.
The command shortcuts ARE the analog stick.
Oh christ alex hasnāt been banned yet?
I agree, those modes do not make you a better player. The only thing that makes you a better player is training on your execution and experience vs good players. Sitting down and talking and sharing knowledge with each other. Extra modes are def made for the casual. I do agree that SNK should of added these to help sales overall but they didnt.
If you want to get better and compete in KOF12 you best bet is competition vs a human player.
No shit but I wasnt just talking about KOF. I was talking about todays games in general like SF4.
To me the short cuts on the analog stick doesnt exist in KOF12.
For the record, Iām a guy, and probably a year or two older then some of you here :looney: .
Sorry, you sounded like every other guy on here that starts wailing about the old days and what not.
@ Fatal:
Did you see me write the words āgreat playerā anywhere in the past three pages? Did I mention these new modes having the ability to transform someone into a top player? No, I didnāt.
If youāre a casual player to the fighting game genre all youāve got going for you is THREE THINGS.
Hadouken.
Hurricane kick.
Shoryuken.
Thatās it. Three motions weāve all got ingrained into our skulls for the past 15+ years. Thatās absolutely garbage in terms of something to go with, especially with the likes of a King of Fighters game.
This is why I keep saying itās not only beneficial to have such things as tutorials, trial modes, challenges, analogue stick shortcuts as stepping stones, itās practically mandatory. Fighting games are a completely different beast from the genres out there, and if you take the crowd that came in with SF4 and BB theyāre going to need a few arrows pointing in the right direction because hell, weāve got nearly two decades on them.
What are they going to come around for? Where do they even start? If you think KoFXII is going to magically pull in people that didnāt care before, I think youāre being a little naive. Outside of itās visual presentation when actually playing, the game is like the last few bites of a sweet apple. You savor them, wipe your mouth, and all youāve got is the core and seeds left, but if youāre never enticed to take a bite in the first place, then you donāt get that end result. The seeds donāt get planted, you donāt get another tree full of apples, and shit stops there.
Itās not going to start picking up out of nowhere man, good luck.
Well I can see where youāre coming from Chibi, you provide some valid points. But nowhere did I say that KOF will magically embrace the minds of those who donāt care, Iām just saying that over time if this game does pick up in popularity (which Iām sure it will), people will begin to notice. Iām not trying to be naive, Iām just trying to be optimistic. I have a saying, and itās that slow motion is better than no motion.
Keeping in mind that this game has not hit worldwide yet so we cannot say how the turn out will beā¦ As of now, this is all talk. Either one of us will surely bite the bullet when shit hits the fan, but Iām keeping my hopes high that this game does succeed because it demonstrates a lot of potential.
Iāll agree though that we do probably have a lot more hands on experience with fighters than most of the casual gamers coming in. I just think at this time when the game is just still in its infancy stage, we shouldnāt be so nitpicky about things.
Haha, I like that.
And yeah, time will tell.
:wgrin:
Also I forgot to add,
As a fighting community, we as serious gamers should be role models for the casual gamers and provide them with enough reasoning to come on board. With the way many people are acting now (ignorant, immature, trolling), this isnāt going to help the gameās image in any way.
So with that said, I think if we want this game to gain popularity we need to show more optimism towards it and appreciate the game for what is has to offer.
is KoF lag gonna get any better for PSN?
its gotten better if u do a private match between 2 people. Its not perfect but its def watchable tho the input lag is still there. It can only get better from here tho.
Yes, PS3 is getting patched first and getting more servers on the 28th.
Well said.:tup: