Two hits overhead is delicious.
what the hell? are you serious? 80 less dmg + 8 frames slower? they are abusing with the nerfs considering that this move was already super slow and easily stoppable. man i hope those guys dont know what they are talking about god damn.
He needs that walk speed to be able to contend with the likes of Chun and Dictator, not really offensively, but defensively to keep up with them. You did bring up a point, though: his normals need to be improved for his offensive footsie game. He really, really needs that speed for a defensive game, though, and for the sake of getting in. You can’t footsie with a dash or his command run. And about the Cody, it would just seem really counter-intuitive to have him walk faster than Guy; Cody has his Bad Stone and some wonderful specials and normals to work with. Giving Cody a faster walk speed than Guy would just poop on our birthday cake.
…also, for the sake of throwing in a nitpick joke, I’m not familiar with any character named “Gun” in the game, but if there were you know I’d main them just for the sake of them being named that.
Sigh… Profound Sadness…
As long as run stop pressure,corner resets,TK Izuna and ambiguous crossups are still good then Guy will be even better when he gets buffed U2,TC consistency and 2 hit overhead in the update.
Bushin flip nerf is a small sacrifice.
We’re on the same page, Cheech. Profound Brofist.
I can’t wait to see what they do to Guy.
This is the second time today I’ve been double-posted.
Crap.
…what am I going to do with all this space I don’t need…
Oh, I know! Here’s a funny vid I saw earlier!
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Man, having all these nerfs makes me glad that nothing like this will ever happen.
Jesus H. Christ that would be SO BAD. If this is the case, then MP >> HP >> Run >> Stop becomes an INSANE semi-vortex in the game when Guy is equipped with U2. I don’t think they’d do that…increase the range of U2 AND make it inescapable post flash? XD
I can just hear the crying now.
I have a bad feeling one of those things you mentioned will get sacrified too. But if they go unchanged, I definitely agree with you. Does anyone know if they’ve changed any of his Hurricane Kicks?
bushin flip nerf doesn’t seem bad compared to the buffs, but we cant forget that sum stuff may change when the final version is done.
^^More importantly, who the fuck knows if these changes will ever come to consoles.
200 -> 120!! Profound Sandness!!
what about his regular tatsu’s i feel they are useless if not used in a combo.
his jump speed a bit faster please! and walk faster, common hes a ninja damnit!
Apparently U2’s damage has been reduced. I guess its fair given that the range and recovery is alot better.
They’re definitely coming to consoles.
Guess I should start getting used to doing U2, but of course it may still be matchup specific… but with this news Abel Matchup just became a lot easier to keep Abel honest about things even more.
FTR I will be playing Yang and Yun as well…
FTR i will be hating on Yun/Yang for being bandwagon characters =)
btw, that wasnt a shot at youi Blood, just saying lol
From JP SSF4 Wiki
Guy
*? Sliding was accelerated (data also suggest that change)
* Before, during and P (middle) in a two-stage technique
* Izuna reduced damage?
* UC2 reduced damage?
they reduced his air grab damage too …and UC2 dmg?..unless they are nerfing eveyones ultra dmg again i dont see the point…its more of a gimmick in most matches anyway…
Also now that MP and HP houzanto are faster… is it possible to TC->MP houzanto
hey hey 3s mains buddy, if Guy and Cody didnt make it to IV I wouldnt be playing it seriously
And I swear they better stop nerfing Damage… jesus Guy isn’t a god character…
so i was at a tournament when my friend called me over to his computer(he was running brackets) after seeing the changes to guy. i got stupid hype when i heard that TC was fixed… THANK GOD. i don’t know how many times i was pressuring people today and that thing whiffed so hard.
as for flip grab damage being nerfed… i got no problems with that. it’s a fair trade off for other things being changed. honestly… flip grab isn’t that hard to land… i mean after run slide it’s almost a guaranteed 200 damage with EX flip grab. i dont know how many times i’ve done that and the match has become hugely in my favor or brought me back into it easily if i don’t have the life lead. not only that… but if you do it right and it connects… it sets up a safe jump and a crossup. so the damage nerf isn’t a problem for me. i mean… i landed ex EX flip grab after run slide every time i went for it today… so it’s kind of an over powered tactic, it’s like getting hit with a full combo.
@shadoken-i think it just meant reduced damage to flip grab. the actual name of bushin flip grab is “bushin izuna otoshi.”
also… at the tourney… got 7th out of 29 entrants. not bad for my first tournament in 5 years haha. there were some bangers out there though. i didn’t expect so many good norcal players to show up. i won my first match… lost to my friend’s bison 2nd match(VERY good bison player)… i was on his ass the first round… thought iw as gonna take the first match easy… then he just started poking me and i was like… fuuuuuck… i can’t win a poke/footsy war against bison. got sent to losers… won the next four matches… then lost to a really good cammy by the name of allen chang(if any one knows who he is). i think i represented for the guy players pretty well. i mean … i got top 8… i definitely surprised some people that thought guy sucked. absolutely bodied some people.
You realize guy’s normal throw does 130 right… i would at least want 130-150 On bushin flip.