This is important because Ex Run-Slide is only safe if you hit with the tip of the move. Right now, when you Ex Run-Slide from full screen, you have to choose:
(1) Press MK later and have your armour last as long as possible, but risk getting punished if he didn’t fireball and blocks the slide.
(2) Press MK earlier, and risk eating a fireball during your slide animation.
With this change, there’s no reason to press MK later. Guy can just fish for a knockdown from full screen at no-risk against fireball characters. That’s huge.
I agree with your other points, but it’s exactly because “cr.lk should always be used over cr.lp anyways” that we’re getting excited over the buff- his main combo/frame trap starter just got a lot better. Of course we excited!
I know Guy didn’t get any crazy buffs, but most people are happy they’re making him into a solid character and fixing his BS issues that should have been fixed from the very beginning. Now we can really enjoy the character and take on anyone where the better skilled player will always win. That’s pretty huge.
I’m most excited for st.forward being buffed.From what little I’ve played of Alpha 2,that seems like his best poke,but in Super its pretty terrible for whiff punishing because it has so much start up.Now Guy can at least play footsies better,he was lacking a solid poke.
Also far st.mp hitbox being bigger means cr.hp > st.mp will combo much better from further ranges.Before the cr.Hp had to hit relatively deep.
Yes definitely.Thats the main problem with Guy,the tools that he has now are great,they just dont work properly.Like every other character,their weaknesses were put there on purpose to balance out their strengths.For example Cody has slow walk speed and bad wakeup game but has really solid defense,good frametraps and the most combo/damage potential in the game.These traits were given to him on purpose,he doesnt have anything that doesn’t ‘work’,he just has weak areas of his game that are up to the player to work around.However we dont have the choice to work around Guys weaknesses because his weakness is a hitbox problem(just using st strong is not a work around,it pales in comparison to what the TC should work like).Hes bad because of what is basically a glitch,and there is no way you can defend a glitch.
Im pretty sure Capcom dont want a character to be weak because their tools dont work.They decide their weaknesses by balancing them with their solid strengths.
To be honest I still want cl.st.hk hitbox to be better.Theres no reason j.hp > st.hk should miss on alot of characters(huge characters like T.hawk wtf?).Maybe thats a hitbox problem for the other characters though and not Guys.I would definitely not want to be Capcom dev team because it seems like fiddling with hitboxes seems to have a knock on effect that keeps on unravelling.Thats why you should have stuck to glorious 2D Capcom!
We might also get other buffs to be discovered, who knows, but I’m more then happy if all the buffs we heard about are true. It almost feels too good to be true.
better s.mp could also mean that it could link better from far s.hp ? This would make those combos which only worked on big characters hit on more of the cast, guy could be a stun monster if this combo works on the majority of the cast
Its a weird link but it works on the bigger characters and a few others. It opens up some really high stun combos if you can land it.
I just came out of training room and found out that link works on Guy too. i did nj hp>s.hk>s.hp>s.mp ex hozanto (ex tatsu juggle in the corner). Nearly a full stun combo on Guy.
Hahaha, why be such a buzzkill? I for one am excited that he’s getting the buffs; it opens him up to a lot of newer players and we’ll have a lot more people frequenting the boards here than just… well, us. The little buffs he’s getting add to his depth and give him a lot more options to us players that like to think on our feet. Not saying he “needed” most of the buffs… but he was far and away from being the character that he was meant to be: he was intended as being equal in rush-down and mix-up, but in the end he only ended up having to rely on mix-ups and using the small amount of offense he had from opponents’ mistakes. Now along with his mix-up game, he has a stronger direct-offense game as well. As for all his other stuff doing just fine as is, well… there is a difference between “good enough” and “good.”
It’s really bringing me back to the days of Alpha 2, to be perfectly honest.
this forum is pretty great with the few people we have compared to others that are filled up but are unorganized and not very informative. I dont even like srk, but the Guy forum is the best. Very well organized and very informative and the members are cool so be thankfull for that lol. Now that our character is becoming the badass he’s meant to be, Guy will truly shine.
Kiryu will probably beast in Japan and maybe get sponsored too haha. Good shit
Can’t wait for the super buff. With the other improvements it should be pretty easy to land this , say early in a RD 3 situation , and with the improved damage , people are goona feel foolish.
About that… In one of my training sessions I noted that a (wall) Ninja Sickle + Tatsu does:
HK 260dmg / 400
EX 270 / 400stun
So I´m not sure if that´s totally worth of the ex bar. Maybe a s.hp>s.mp canc lp.hozanto HK tatsu juggle. Maybe almost same stun but no-ex requiered? I´m gonna try that as soon as I get my new copy this afternoon. Anything ending in a reset + 1f trap lp izuna grab probably will do it.
Definitely not.TC just sticks out as one of the main reasons he is an underpowered character.
Basically I just think the TC problem is why less people main him.They see that one of his most basic bnb’s doesnt work and then they just assume the character is bad.Thats not a weakness of Guy its a fault of Capcoms testing team.
I hope not, if he does, the guy forum will turn into the ryu forum lol and if that isn’t bad enough, a lot of people would call us cheap, OP, daigo fanboys, etc and new players might go straight to guy as well and mash bushin flip lol
I just hope AE is still popular and the #1 game cause it would suck if we finally get what we wanted and people are hardly playing the game. The are so many other fighters coming out next year.
The little buffs he’s getting add to his depth and give him a lot more options to us players that like to think on our feet. Not saying he “needed” most of the buffs… but he was far and away from being the character that he was meant to be: he was intended as being equal in rush-down and mix-up, but in the end he only ended up having to rely on mix-ups and using the small amount of offense he had from opponents’ mistakes. Now along with his mix-up game, he has a stronger direct-offense game as well. As for all his other stuff doing just fine as is, well… there is a difference between “good enough” and “good.”
Anything ending in a reset + 1f trap lp izuna grab probably will do it.