yeah. that feeling is the reason why i hate flying on planes. planes have a falling motion to them and random times.
so what you’re saying is that it only works for "TURBULENT" motions? 
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Here is what your argument looks like to me:
If someone spins the top on a flat surface, undisturbed, the top only falls in reality, never in dreams.
Your observation: We never see the top wobble in dreams. We only see the top wobble in reality. THEREFORE, there is a correlation between the top wobbling and the top falling. THEREFORE, when we see the top wobble in the ending scene, we can reasonably expect the top to fall.
There are a few problems I have with this.
First, the only rule explicitly stated in the movie by Cobb concerning whether the person who spins Cobb’s top can tell whether he is in reality or not is whether the top falls. Not whether the top wobbles. His exact words were that it keeps “spinning and spinning.” It can wobble as much or as little as it wants. Logically speaking, his words do not exclude the possibility of the top wobbling while it spins, so long as it keeps “spinning and spinning.”
Second, there is a scene you’re forgetting about where the top wobbles and they are in a dream. It’s when Cobb searches for Saito in limbo and Saito spins the top. We see the top wobble, but never fall. In fact, it KEEPS wobbling whilst maintaining its spin, and would probably continue to do so for as long as Cobb and Saito would have wanted to just sit there and keep watching it.
Third, look at the two statements below. Both depend on the argument that because we do not observe a certain behavior of the top in the movie, that means that it must be in a dream/in reality.
Your words:
Bolded words are my changes:
Fourth, regarding your attempt to explain the top’s behavior based on how you would expect a top to behave, how do you know Cobb’s top behaves the way you would expect a top to behave? The weight and balance is supposed to be unique. Unless you actually observe Cobb’s top behave in the same way as in your conjecture, it remains just that, conjecture.
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[details=Spoiler]Arthur used the music to time everything. As soon as the other hear the music in the snow level they know how long the song is so they can calculate how much time they have till the kick.
Arthur holds himself down in the elevator, you also see him counting down or counting the notes in the song. This isn’t their first mission so i’d imagine their timing is very good.
I do not think the van flipping would effect the others, they are sleeping so they are even more heavily sedated, so I’m assuming the effects of gravity cannot be felt a level down. Or more likely :d:
Arthur does not wake up when the van flips because he can only wake from a kick within his dream not from the layer above, this applies to everyone under sedation.
On the plane it’s Yusef they are connected too, he was also sedated so turbulance would not have been a strong enough kick. He must have been on a timer, woken up a few moments before they landed in the US. So as I understand it, if they failed, Yusef would have been the only one to survive the mission, everyone else would have their brains turn to scrabbled eggs as Eames pointed out.[/details]
limbo
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I don’t think death got them into limbo, I think Cobb said him and his wife were trying to get deeper and deeper and that is how they first wound up in limbo. I assume if you go into too many dreams inside of dreams it gets unstable or something and you go to limbo.
limbo
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I thought that someone ended up in limbo if they died in a dream and were too heavily asleep/sedated to wake up. also in the case of cobb and his wife, I agree with your reasoning for the dream state getting too unstable after a certain amount of “dream-layers” are reached, as another way of getting into limbo.
Here are some good infographics that explain the levels - The Most Brain-Scrambling ?Inception? Infographics
Totem
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The top isn’t the real totem, the wedding ring is.
This is like the second Inception parody collegehumor has done in like 3 weeks.
This would be a real bombshell if people hadn’t been discussing that for the last 5-6 pages.
I didn’t feel like reading the last few pages. :-X
Possibly one of my favorite movies though I’ve only seen it once and not nearly enough time has passed for me to digest it, but much like The Dark Knight Inception was one of the most entertaining movies I’ve had the pleasure of experiencing in theaters.
I have so much to say in my review and don’t know where to start. While I don’t want to contribute my thoughts on the finer details and fractal logic theories just yet I will say with full confidence to those who don’t believe it was as confusing or introspective as most of us make it to be that every little tiny minuscule detail was put in for a reason.
Regardless of the ambiguous ending, my initial reaction much like Memento is there is a hard though convoluted conclusion to be derived with enough effort exerted in finding it.
Questions on ending
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I still get how Cobbs is able to escape Limbo in the end of the movie. Or maybe he never did? Wasn’t the kick supposed to be the absolute fallback to wake up from all of the dream levels (and Limbo)? From my observation, he missed the kick back to level 1. Now, was there more time for him to kick back to level 3 or 2 (after the architect jumped in limbo)? When Cobbs woke up on the beach (after or during limbo), was he still in Limbo or did he meet Watanabe (for his character name) in level 2, the hotel? So was transported from Limbo (the beach, if it is), to Level 2 just like that?
So many fucking questions. I gotta watch this movie again.
ending
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The beach where he washed up and met Saito was limbo. I’m assuming all of the other dream levels were gone at that point because all the dreamers were awake? Plus he would have “died” in each stage (drowning in level 1, elevator impact level 2, crushed from explosion level 3) since he missed the jumps so when he finally did wake up from limbo, either it skipped straight to reality or instantly woke him up from all the levels.
Limbo
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Limbo is a special case I think. It’s not a level of the dream world. It’s the empty void interwoven between them all. So the normal kick rules don’t apply. So to escape Limbo you have to kill yourself and bypass all the other dreams and go straight back into reality.
At least that is the only way I can explain the jump.
[spoiler=]Why do you think? He said his totem was the top. Also, just because he is wearing the ring only in the dream world doesn’t make it a totem - the point of a totem is to be able to confirm, through some method only you know yourself (such as weight, for instance) whether you’re dreaming. Technically he’d be checking his ring rather than spinning tops to determine if he’s dreaming.[/details]
Read the link that was posted a few pages back, logic behind his ring being the totem is pretty sound
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[details=Spoiler] Wedding ring theory is a pretty solid argument. The other thing I was questioning was the validity of a “totem” in general.
My question is challenging the totem’s “truth”. If a totem was created in a dream state, would it’s “truth” only hold true for that level of the dream? If the totem fell, would it only reflect that the user was in the dream level where the totem was created? Or did I miss something about a gravity or perpetual motion argument in dreams, lol. I don’t remember.
But if that’s valid, that theory alone could dispel any argument that the movie was even based in a reality layer. We may have never even seen reality.[/details]
Limbo
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if so why didn’t they just tell saito, dude if you get into limbo, just kill yourself and come back
limbo
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I was under the impression that when you went into limbo from dying, you had no idea you were there. like it was reality to you, so telling him what to do beforehand would have been useless.