vs vega
learn what pokes he uses
buffer vs all dem pokes
watch out for that flying heel move thing
dont buffer vs that move or just buffer duck vs it to get in
duck upper all neutral jumps
anti air with jet upper or cross counter
can i request:
bison
yun
Just a note, Vega cannot use those flips on reversal. Vega is pretty free on wake-up
He can, there’s just no reversal message.
I went into the Vega forums and asked and they had the same result that he can flip on wakeup (invincible at frame 1).
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV/Vega read back slash and short back slash, and to my knowledge these attacks were not changed to make so that they could be used reversal in AE.
Me and a Vega player both used different meaty setups (combos only possible if the move hits on the later frames while Vega wakes up).
I did forward throw meaty f.HK > s.HP link
It said 2 hit combo
f.HK has to hit on one of the 2 last active frames to link into s.HP
Vega could flip out using PPP and KKK backflips if done on his first frame out of recovery.
Vega can escape meaty pressure.
but it setups him up for a free combo, devastating I think it’s worse than just blocking. But I see what you mean about his flip and the reversal issue.
The wiki post is very misleading.
When they say that the flip cannot be reversal’d they don’t say why. I figured out this morning, that the reason it can still dodge meaty attacks is because it is classified as a unique move, and unique moves cannot be reversal’d by the engine. Even if it comes out on the first frame possible the reversal symbol will not appear. That is kind of dumb.
Rose Garden will return with Bison soon. I’ve actually been learning about this character, and have some cool stuff.
st.HK > bison pokes and forward dash grab shenanigans on reaction. I hate this match-up because of corner pressure and how you can’t read his next move, so it’s hard to press a button to get him off. That’s basically it, though. Bison’s who like to Focus > Forward Dash… st.HK wins. I his slide, too.
I saw that this thread was active and clicked it thinking it would be something on the Rose forum, lol.
I gotta say that I support this thread a great deal, playing Dudley on the side for fun, this has been incredibly informative, and I wish every character had a thread like this.
Bison’s walk speed is better than Dudley’s. Just the same way you can punish his whiffed normals with your HK, so can he. And he can make your moves whiff a lot easier than Dudley can his.
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Vega can get out of pressure for free and you cannot option select it
How come?
Also, Bison up Monday. I’m gonna be out of town for the weekend at a tournament in Charlotte, NC. Wish me luck.
Read Week 5X on first post. Bison is up. Sorry I forgot about it o_O
should’ve put you have to react to Dictators Teleport with EX MGB or U1
I’ve done that in matches before, and if you are expecting it and it react to it, it is possible to actually go through Bison.
You’re telling me?
You dont “expect” the teleport that’s why you’re reacting to the move with EX MGB/U1.
If you go for meaty c.LK or safe jump and either one whiffs you gotta react accordingly.
It’s how you punish preddy much all of Bison’s reversals
EX Scissor, s.HK
EX Stomp, Duck under on reaction, wait to see if it’s D.Reverse, if not c.HP, f.MK or s.HK xx???
EX D.Reverse, Duck Under on reaction, confirm Devil Reverse, c.HK Cross Counter ect ???
EX Psycho, obv
Teleport, usually takes a bit to realize he didnt backdash > EX MGB, HP MGB, U1
Backdash, I LET THESE SLIDE FOR FREE if he has meter, otherwise Oki 2 +Duck/U1 OS
Still waiting on amazon to deliver…
No, when I’m saying that when I am expecting it, and I reversal EX MGB or U1, it can go through him. I have only tried it with wake-up set ups but tomorrow I will test safe-jumps.
“Reversal Teleport” "I reversal EX MGB or U1"
What?
just meaty c.LK and test vs each reversal
You of all people shouldn’t be nitpicking at semantics.
East is saying it’s possible to do it too soon and go through them even if you are reacting to it instead of OS.
You might want test U1 vs HK/EX Scissor kick hitting at max range. I know for sure EX Scissor is reversal punishable U1 punishable even if he does EX Scissor at max range.