I don’t know about any of you, but I struggle hard with Rufus. Mainly dive pressure. What’s the best strategy?
I am with you especially on Cammy and Akuma. I just can’t see Akuma being a winning match-up at all. I think it is a 5-5 at best match-up but I am not seeing anything that Poison have or can do that would just sway the match in her favor (PS: How can Akuma be a better match-up than Dan ?). I am a Cody main and i really don’t think that Cody loses to Poison at all.
All and all I strongly don’t agree with { Viper,Akuma,Cammy,Ibuki} and I just disagree with {Cody, Fei , Dudley , Rose , Rufus }. The rest i am ok with and some i am just not experienced enough on. I understand that i am not in a position to create a match-up chart myself but I don’t agree with a considerable amount of that list.
Rufus vs Poison feels worse than Rose vs Rufus. I think cody is 5-5 imo. Fei can beat her pokes and focus through just about everything she does and dp her lmt on reaction. Cody loses to poison during knock down or if she corners him.
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sakura does not lose to poison IMO. it’s 5-5 until she’s in the corner, it turns to 6-4, but she’s still incredibly dangerous especially when you’re in the corner. also she has a cr.mk thats 5 frames she can buffer into shooken that leads to mixup, corner carry, or potentially death while your best mid range pokes are 6 frames at best.
akuma…how the fuck can you even say this with a straight face. im not even going to go into it, its quite self explanatory why that match is absolute shit and one of her worst matchups. i think what he did was judge the mu based on his personal experience which is a big no no. if i did that, i’d say it’s 7-3 in my favor because that shit’s been free for me but i know better.
fei, no. i don’t like any character who has 6 frame pokes and a fireball against fei. he destroys that type of all around character.
cammy, no. mostly for the same reasons as the above.
cody and zangief should be moved to 5-5 or 4.5-5.5 because they have jumpins that trade with poison in their favor.
gen always struck me as a character who can blow up poison because he can change jump angles, you cant do shit against oga, and he has ways around her zoning.
guy is hard as hell to deal with in the close range and zoning him is hard because of bushin flip elbow. also hard to anti air him.
elf is probably bad because of the dumbass q bomb buff but i’ll leave it be because i havent played it enough.
ryu should be 6-4 ryu’s favor imo.
oh yeah forgot about viper. should be a bad matchup, i just dont know how bad. its winnable, just stupid as hell (like most of her matchups).
seems like for her really really bad matchups we are in a general agreement.
Block, Run, Dp, backflip. Mostly block and run. if you can trap him in the corner you’ll be fine. For other dive kickers like yun and yang you can actually anti air with st.mp.
i also like going air to air with him alot jump hk. he really has to commit and do a early jump round house if he wants to catch you but its like cammy jump hk. even getting him a couple times will be anough to deter him from jumping so much and you can start chucking fireballs.
focus level 1 and make him block it to is a good answer too.
I think that’s risky since if he trades he can get ultra 1. I think Ryu v poison is 5-5.
i find super is a pretty decent anti air because of its quick start up. its also easily bufferable and cancelable from a fireball, so if they jump in a hp fireball, cancle it into super and knock them out the air for over 300 damage. its also great for chip, for example, meaty hp fireball, cr.mk xx mp rekka, rekka xx super does tons of chip.
Rufus’ J.RH beat hers clean. It’s way more active then hers.
im pretty sure ive beaten it clean several times, ive never had it trade. only 1 time i got hit with it is when i did it too early trying to anticipate a dive kick.
or all of the rufuses ive played online suck ass.
Really? Well damn I dont know then.
Offline I’ve played some really good Rufus’ around and everytime I try to Air to Air him with RH I get 2Hit RH into Ultra
Then I feel super stupid.
yeah come to think of it i beat it out because the dude second guessed between wanting to block, cr.mp, or jump hk and i hit him like right out of his jump hk at the very beginning of his jump.
Cammy lose to poison really bad.
@The-Olympian care to elaborate ?
No character with a divekick loses to Poison.
From my experiences, Vega loses pretty hard to Poison.
- Her anti-airs at worse trade with his Barcelona Drop
- His jump arc is shallow, letting him get caught by H Aeolus Edge
- No dependable Anti-airs to keep Poison out
- Low pokes can be made to whiff with her flip kick/slam
I don’t know about Vega :
-Vega Ex scarlet terror will always beat LMT and his regular ones will beat it if he does scarlet terror early enough. (except Cl.HP xx EX LMT as a block string: EX scarlet terror will trade at best with that.)
-Vega can Ultra 2 LMT even Cl.HP xxEX LMT as a block string. Vega can U2 a lot of the LMT pressure and the risk/reward is in his favor (U2 too early = free escape and nonpunishable or if he timed it right you pay a lot). so you can’t really go free with the LMT block string stuff.
-Vega has a much better mobility and walk speed and overall buttons.
-Vega has one of the best corner escape options in the game with his all jumps and barcelona attacks so he is harder to pin down than most.
-Vega has a kara throw with his HK.
-Plus all of his options vs fireball like Ex Roll etc,etc
My training partner is a Vega player so i play this match constantly and I don’t think that Vega loses to Poison at all. I do not think it is really bad but i would give the edge at least slightly to Vega in that one it is a 4.5-5.5 or 4-6 maybe. Yes LMT will mess up crouch teching and random poke whiffs but it is not as free as you think it is.
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also, i think vega beats poison 6-4 atleast. his normals are so good, its very hard to play footsies with him using anyone. His speed is rediculous. We can’t anti air him reliably. his karathrow is stupid. he isn’t cornered easily and he doesn’t get pressured by our fireballs much.
im surprised people that think there’s good matchups for her
i only find matchups that are okay, bearable, or just straight up terrible with her.
I think Vega’s even. you need to pick and choose your spots to fireball otherwise you’re doing a lot of far.LP, far.LK to stop him from trying to poke you. Can’t do too many rekkas cause he can punish with cr.MP. You need to mix it up with fireballs and LMTs to catch him slipping (also gets you in to pressure him a bit.)
Poison has the normals to stop him from just pushing buttons mid to far range and having different speed fireballs help a lot in baiting out jumps or something. You need to be weary of U1 or super as he can use them now to punish fireballs. Otherwise you really can keep up with Vega if you don’t let him walk you down with normals.
I’ve been playing this match a lot with a Vega friend the past few weeks and it’s back and forth. Can’t be predictable but you can’t let him just walk you down or just jump in for free.