Okay that was the strongest lobby I have been in since before I went to Japan. I want to point out a few things you could focus on to improve. If you acquire these skills you easily be the best Ibuki I’ve played in the mirror. I’ve had more trouble against you than any other.
I know for a fact that you can’t SJC Hashinsho on the left side. I see you switching sides just to pull it off on the right. Do not do this. If you are not on the left side don’t do an obvious switch to the right. Sometimes I knew what set-up you would do because of it, and had it been offline I would have punished you or blocked everytime.
Learn the Unblockable. Stop doing Farasol’s set-up in this match-up, or at least if you want to set up a meaty do it after HK Kazegiri for more damage.
Considering your execution, why are you going for a basic Ageman, cr.Fierce anti-air? I want you to practice st.Roundhouse SJC and mix it in with [Ageman LK CD, st.Roundhouse, HK Kazegiri]. Both are amazing in this match-up and as you saw also against Seth. Finally you are ding the Ageman too early. I don’t agree with using it against Seth but to be honest I’v only played two Seth players so I don’t have much experience, but in the Ibukki mirror you were pressing it way too early. I was jumping in on you just to test you out and it got me in trouble at times, but please practice this.
As for the Seth match-up, learn the Unblockable! EX Neckbreaker, LK CD, sj.LK
Most of your habits are very similar to mine. You know when to use EX Tsumuji for safety, you know the right spacing for Ibuki’s dash etc. but please stop using cr.Strong if you know your opponent likes to jump every now and then. I was tired so I didn’t drag the match out, but if you whiff cr.Forward instead you have time to Anti-air me if I do a High Jump.
At first your Safe Jump was hitting me every time, but it’s because you actually shouldn’t do it in this match-up haha. Had we played a bo3 in a tournament maybe, but against Ibuki there’s no way I’m ever going to do EX Kazegiri on wake-up. You can do a Safe Jump which is also an Unblockable,and as you saw,j.Fierce deals too much Stun so I get stunned too early in the match.
After EX Tsumuji, Raida in the corner, do the st.Fierce LP Kunai or j.LK mix-up. The set-up you have now after Raida is not ambiguous at all, but the one I just mentioned is one Iyo uses and even in the Japanese Arcades does it work very very often.
I couldn’t against you because our connections weren’t as good, but when RekkaTEC picked Ibuki I did Sako’s full MK Tsumuji combo. Do not do this against Ibuki haha, it’s a bad habit. The only reason to do it is on characters like Makoto who are likely to crouch. You can’t hit Ibuki with the f+LK if she’s crouching.
9.When you have 3 bars, why don’t you ever FADC? EX Kazegiri deals a lot of block-stun and has really good range. You can use it even if you don’t expect it to hit to continue your pressure safely.
Last but not least, I want you to switch to Yoroitoshi in this match-up. There were so many situations where you could have punished me even on reaction. I’ll tell you what they are outside of these boards. Also stop using the slide at that range. Try to use it at max range only. Any closer is obviously unsafe, but at a distance like that it leaves you open to whiff punishing. It’s just a bad habit for when you play on a lagless set-up.
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ANYWAY you’re massively better than when we first played. Give my regards to LiorTEC lol. I noticed his empty jump -> Axe Kick habit in the first match but I was too tired to punish it properly. But still, he is better than the best Makoto in the UK that’s for sure. =) You Frenchies.
Yes this lobby was truly awesome. I just regret that Cuongster didn’t join us, he was connected but didn’t answer to my invitations
Dammit, you’re so right. I actually can on the left side, but I pull it off only like 1 out of 2 times, so I can’t risk it in match conditions. It’s true anyway that I sometimes try too much to be on the “good” side to do this, I just have to set my focus on something else (I’m actually so happy I can finally pull this off after months of training that I feel like I have to do it at every match -_- )
What is Farasol’s setup? Am I using something I don’t even know the name? Anyway, I don’t play Ibukis that much and I haven’t put consideration in this matchup at all yet. When I’ll be finished working “common” matchups, I’ll start learning specific stuff for Ibuki or other “not-that-common” character. Moreover, I don’t have a lot of occasions to play good Ibukis, and the fact that I showed a strong play against you is mostly because we have a similar ground game imho. I only regret one thing: I TOTALLY FORGOT to use late kunais. Guess I was too tired for this stuff ^^
This is exactly what I’m practicing these times. I can’t do juggle st.HK - LK cd consistently, so for now I stick with Agemen - cr.HP. Will add it soon, when I’ll be able to do this consistently. I can easily SJC a common cl.st.HK, but I don’t know yet where exactly to use cl.st.HK in a match. Watching you do some actually made me learn stuff =)
I know this unblockable, don’t worry. I just don’t wanna use it too much against a smart player. Use it heavily on this guy and he’ll learn how to escape it every time. I guess you saw it, but I’m trying to mix my game as often as possible to avoid my opponents to understand how to punish/avoid my setups =)
Didn’t I cr.MK you? You were not jumping a lot, so I sticked with cr.MP. You could’ve seen me against LiorTEC (the Makoto), I was using cr.MK a lot more as he jumps a lot
YOU will never EX kazegiri on wakeup. I do it sometimes as you’ve seen, so I don’t know, I use this safe jump because… I feel safe lol. And I’m not yet good enough with option selects to OS every jumpin I do, while I OS this one pretty easily, it’s actually just a matter of hiding my lack of execution
Corner Raida - st.LP - j/sj. Kunai is not ambiguous enough? I swear I land it like 80% of times, even against very good players. But I’ll consider this one as well =)
Yes, man, rekkaTEC was saying “OH MY GOD HE CAN DO THAT, I have to train, I’m saving the replays” when you did this one xD. I have to train for this. He then said “Okay this guy is actually a hidden top player right?” xD
I’m just (finally) starting to add FADC to my game. I mostly use it with kazegiri FADC Raida to leave the corner, but as you said I have to do it more, I just don’t feel like I really need it in a match
Yoroitoshi against Ibuki, huh? Will consider it.
Slide is #1 in my “ultra bad habits list”. You were actually playing the “no-slide-Damascus” today, I swear I was just using this move in every situation, I finaly stopped to do it after some matches at the World Game Cup where good players punished my slide before it even hit them. I still have a bit of this bad habit in my game but I’m working hard to eliminate it
Anyway awesome session. By the way, I personnally think that LiorTEC is the best Makoto in France. At least, it’s the best French Makoto I’ve ever played. I swear playing with him gives me more trouble than playing against VRyu Sensei, he has this particular way of playing Makoto which puts me in trouble very often, tonight was actually the first time I could beat him in some matches so I’m pretty happy with it =)
Neckbreaker -> st.Roundhouse -> Kasumi Gake – F-Word uses walk-up st.Strong instead which is more ambiguous. Honestly I was trying to test you whilst we were playing but, I you know at the back of your mind the right buttons to use at what spacings. Your ground game is good but what really separates us is that I do higher reward set-ups and I have better frame-traps/pressure. I want to play you again when we’re not so sleepy so I can get into more detail, but I will say for a fact that you play this match-up smarter and safer than everyone else I’ve fought.
It’s a different timing, but I’m sure you can do it soon. =)
That’s true but, there is no escape from Unblockable 2 if Ibuki has no meter. =D
You did but I really was jumping a lot. LionTEC takes it to another level but he has an Axe Kick; I don’t think cr.Forward is much better in this match-up though but that’s just me.
I never do it 'cause it’s 5-frames and I’m playing against Damascus Ibuki, lol.
It’s not as good, trust me the set-up I described is much better. Of course mix it up though.
I had to throw the mic on the floor to play properly, man was I tired though I wanted to do so much more. I’m not a secret top player since I refuse to play in tournaments, but if we could have met offline I could show you my execution these days is pretty much perfect. I don’t know why but, when I went to Japan SF looked like slow motion etc. Online though I’m same old haha.
FADC into Kazegiri or st.Roundhouse (doesn’t work on Sagat) are much better, unless you have a set-up after Raida in the corner like Sako vs. Haitani.
Yeah it’s a shame because this is actually the biggest bad-habit you can get from playing online. Even I wil whiff punish that everytime, and sometimes with Raida haha.
I have played jlai Makoto who is probably the best in the USA and he’s really good. Last time we played I ended up winning by quite a few but I think it’s because Makoto is seriously harmed by online slow-mo. When playing against Mingo I was so frustrated with online Makoto haha. Anyway if you think LiorTEC is better than VRyu Sensei… Maybe it’s a Mingo x Izuna type thing where VRyu has all the theory but Lion is better with fighting. I don’t know, as far as I know, VRyu is pretty much the best outside of Shiro and Haitani. Lion is mega good though, I just feel sorry for his execution errors.
That session was absolutely amazing. RekkaTEC is like the only guy besides Packz who I haven’t been able to beat that has destroyed me in the past. If he wants to learn Ibuki I’ll record our matches and give commentary. He has gdlk reactions and execution, but he plays Ibuki similar to how Gootecks played her when he first started.
I dunno about telling people what setup to do and to do unblockables all the time. How the player choose to play her rushdown game is entirely up to him/her, not us critique-ers.
We can recommend that they spam unblockables and vortex and other broken setups, but not assert our playstyle into theirs, especially when there aren’t really any explicitly right or wrong answers.
Recommend, consider, think about, suggest, acknowledge, keep in mind, etc.
Google’s definition of critique: "a detailed analysis and assessment of something*." Dictionary.com’s definition: “an article or essay criticizing a literary or other work*; detailed evaluation.”
*in this case, a “performance”, as Mike Ross likes to put it
(PS: it’s lioRTEC with an R ^^ )
RekkaTEC is very good because he has gdlk reactions. He’ll punish any of your attempt with a shoryu/[the thing with the kicks] on reaction, he heavily (and smartly) uses any invincibility he has (and… Seth has stuff with more than 10 frames invincibility lol ), that’s what makes him dangerous ^^
Anyway I agree with Mingo as I rather take advices as recommendations, not absolute needs. Although I agree to the fact that I have to know the unblockable. I just don’t have enough time and energy to put on the Ibuki specific matchup =)
That’s what I said though =).
Yeah rekkaTEC is still my favourite player. =)
I never said to always do anything Mongo =P but if something works more often than not in my experience there’s no reason to not attempt it.
But anyway Damascus, especially when it works against yourself, an Unblockable set-up is pretty much unavoidable past using a focus attack, which I empty jumped and punished rekkaTEC trying to do with a guess Neckbreaker. =P
I don’t recommend doing things in the Ibuki mirror match just so people can improve in that match-up alone. It’s so you get in the habit of making improvements. Otherwise me doing the mirror matches here would be pointless 'cause no one really want to be better in the mirror match, they want to win against Ryu or something. Besides you don’t want to lose to Saunic anymore do you?
He was this Seth player who basically super perfected me and read my every move for about 5 matches straight back when AE was new. Since then I watched his channel secretly as a fanboy. He plays SF with really solid fundamentals and I always dreamed of getting a rematch. Despite having played him, unlike with F-Word or Iyo, he still makes my heart race.
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Alrighty here is a new replay!
I wanted to play this match more patiently, and try not to jump in to much. But basically get him to come to me like Izuna was doing to me.
Still not good with the dashing on the stick yet, and did not know the range on Ken’s st.HK was so far!
I am in a bad habit of the cr.HK, st. HK and I don’t even follow it up, so I am working on that.
(and Izuna, if you look at this vid compared to our matchs, my button mashing has gone down considerably! And I learned to crouch tech ha!)
Messed up a few combos, and my hit confirming still needs work. But only through out a couple random NB’s out of habit.
My start of a vortex, ended his Ultra… but did not hit confirm it well at all!
In the 3rd round, I tried to punish his shoryuken but his falling behind me threw me off and so my NB was late…
Wow, at the beginning of the round, did you do a j.HK? Why so? If you want to cross him up, use MK or LK, and if you want a genuinge jumpin, use HP or an air target combo to avoid focus attacks
Again, please totally forget about cr.HK st.HK. Don’t even work on looking for follow ups, this move is anyway a situational move used where you want to add a surprise mixup to your game. Unless you’re good with everything else, I wouldn’t advise you to use that. Just stop at cr.HK and start a vortex.
Again and again, I felt liek you only use your HK button in this match, cr.HK HK is: unsafe, low damaging, low micup capacity, even worse if you don’t do anything because you’re basically throwing your opponent away. Think about it and just forget it
Seems like to me that you have trouble connecting a neckbreaker after target combo LP MP HP. Work it in training mode, you shouldn’t ever miss this one =)
You have pretty good reactions. now, why not learning a better way to anti air? The easiest one: b.MP - MK command dash - st.HK - LK Kazegiri. There is no difficult timing, you’ll add extra damage & stun, and put him down. Try it a bit in training and see what happens
Now you should learn another combo, you only use LP MP HP which is situational: only works from close range, whiffs on some crouching characters (look at how you failed landing it after Ken’s ultra). Try to get used to cr.LP st.LP st.MK xx special, cr.LP cr.LP st.MK xx special for example.
Only one random EX neckbreaker so far, so you’re almost good with eliminating random neckbreakers =)
Every time you got hit, you were ONLY going for cr.HK => ULTIMATE BAD IDEA
Ken’s f.MK is really annoying, I agree. Block it and don’t push any button if he’s willing to continue attacking. try to keep him out with cr.MK
LK Kazegiri is easier to land.
I started by training with LK Kazegiri, when I could do that easily I went for HK Kazegiri. I usually don’t ask people for too much things, as I won’t advise him to work on Tsumuji loops for example.
Ya the cr. HK st. HK is my next bad habit i need to get rid of, I don’t like just resetting them at all.
The jumping HK goes hand in hand with my habit of hovering over the HK,HP buttons which im trying to fix with better hand placement. I like to use MK, LP, or HP when I jump in because I can TC.
I have been in the training room working on new combos, I did manage to to st. lk st. mk xx mk tsumuji, which is the main one ive been practicing but i will work on the others.
Ya sometimes I get excited and dont execute very well on the follow ups to TC4. So I missed a good opportunity there with the missed NB.
And for the better way to AA, I thought the same thing! “I need a better way to AA and not just reset them!” So I watched my replays with Izuna, watched his youtube ibuki tutorial, and read the ibuki guide about this and realized that after b. mp I need to do a CD, so I went into training and practiced, and now can do it pretty well into a raida, or st. HK. And since st. HK is most damaging and I can follow up with a kazegiri, I will practice that.
Lk CD? That will keep me on the same side I started correct? I was practicing with Mk CD and would “usually” cross up.
right now its all difficult for me to land regardless, I am only about 5 days into my fightstick (a couple days i had it opened intstalling arceyes) So I am trying to learn best ways to get my fingers already used to doing the things I need.
tsumuji loops I have attempted a few times in practice, but can rarely get the st. lp to hit.