Connect 4 has been ‘solved’. Even if both players play a perfect game, player 2 wins, every time.
lies
LIES!!
runs away crying
30 useable characters marvel? How come I only see 7 used at tournys. And most of the time only sent,storm and mag, everyone else is a assist. Anyone thinks UMK3 is broken never saw how broken MK2 is.
ya its been solved but solved for player 1 not 2
oh yeah and fuk MK, theres lots of better games that arent at EVO to worry about
i wonder why the street fighter ex series isnt at evo!!! its street fighter!!! its also good too!!! as for mk games…even though they could be played competitive wise…they arent really fun to watch…i guess that is what evo really boils down to…
Mk vids por favor?
Doublechecked, and your absolutely right according to wikipedia. Sorry 'bout that.
Here’s what the Cannons could do:
$20 flat entry
$5 in every game you want to play, with write ins, 20 people minimum in order to have it an official tournament. If enough people are willing to throw down the money to play Twinkle Star Sprites (what an awesome game), let 'em at it. If the pre-registrations were online, the list of games that made the cut could be out weeks to months before the tourney. No more ‘SSBM ain’t worthy’ or ‘KOF ain’t worthy’ or ‘Why don’t Evo show the Alpha 3 love?’ craps. If the tournament ain’t at evo, it’s because noone but you and your kid brother wanted to play it.
sooooo not cool mr. “higher doom”

sooooo not cool mr. “higher doom”
Thanks mr. “higher-jin” :tup: :pleased: :tup:
Sixty:
Sentinel
Storm
Magneto
Cable
Cyclops
Psylocke
Captain Commando
Dr. Doom
Iron Man
War Machine
Juggernaut
Tron Bonne
Silver Samurai
Spiral
Wolverine
Other Wolverine
Rogue
Megaman
Felicia
Colossus
Strider
Dhalsim
Cammy
Zangief
Venom
Blackheart
Morrigan
Gambit
Omega Red
Cap America
Anakaris
There’s 31 that can be used in high level play. Obviously some have few good matchups, some are only assists, but I’d say you can build a solid tournament team with any one of them backed by good teamwork.
I play Doom/Cable/Tron, btw. Don’t think I count in the ‘only 7 tournament usable characters’ mindset.
LOL @ thread title for no particular reason
JAL- Zangief? elaborate pls.
WHERES GUILe
Sixty:
Sentinel
Storm
Magneto
Cable
Cyclops
Psylocke
Captain Commando
Dr. Doom
Iron Man
War Machine
Juggernaut
Tron Bonne
Silver Samurai
Spiral
Wolverine
Other Wolverine
Rogue
Megaman
Felicia
Colossus
Strider
Dhalsim
Cammy
Zangief
Venom
Blackheart
Morrigan
Gambit
Omega Red
Cap America
AnakarisThere’s 31 that can be used in high level play. Obviously some have few good matchups, some are only assists, but I’d say you can build a solid tournament team with any one of them backed by good teamwork.
I play Doom/Cable/Tron, btw. Don’t think I count in the ‘only 7 tournament usable characters’ mindset.
Ya im shure im going to see
Dr Doom
Iron Man
War Machine
Juggernaut
Tron Bonne
Silver Samurai
Spiral
Wolverine
Other Wolverine
Rogue
Megaman
Felicia
Colossus
Strider
Dhalsim
Cammy
Zangief
Venom
Blackheart
Morrigan
Gambit
Omega Red
Cap America
Anakaris
Be in the finals at evo.
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k, thx for the list. You just proven what I originally thought about your post before. :tup:
Wolverine/Other Wolverine/Venom is gonna take that shit at evo next year.
I have no problem with Jalbert, I understand why he is listing those characters, in fact I would add more to it. But when it comes to top tier, I know the MK community has a “top 10” and they are considered the top tier, none of those top 10 are considered weak, or average as the rest of cast has considerable difficulty handling them, after that you can then break down the top ten into a few tiers on it’s own, with Kabal, Human Smoke, and Kung Lao in the tippy top, Kano, Nightwolf, Robot Smoke, Reptile, Ermac, in the middle and Sindel and Jax towards the bottom, even if these were the only characters in the game, that’s still a good percentage per crop. But as it stands, 10 of 23 is 43%, 4 of 56 is 7%.
Does CvS2 have an isolated top tier? I know Sagat Bison and Blanka were dominant for a while, there’s some Iori fan bois here and there, but I heard King and someone else are gaining momentum. In any event, as it stands, most of the people who have posted here take any chance to stab at MK, and the few people who answered honestly and intelligently didn’t put the game down.
Matt

Oh yeah. I’ll bring connect four to evo next year. Who’s in?
Edit: I’m serious.
Whats really good? >=D
Ya im shure im going to see
Dr Doom
Iron Man
War Machine
Juggernaut
Tron Bonne
Silver Samurai
Spiral
Wolverine
Other Wolverine
Rogue
Megaman
Felicia
Colossus
Strider
Dhalsim
Cammy
Zangief
Venom
Blackheart
Morrigan
Gambit
Omega Red
Cap America
Anakaris
Be in the finals at evo.
Spiral and Cammy have been at EVO/B5 finals, and Iron Man, Blackheart, Stider, Doom, and Tron Bonne have been in the semis and some finals of past ECCs and WCC.
I’m not flaming you dude, but you really need to stop posting and start reading/listening more for a while. Your opinions and false statements are going to quickly lead you into flame and scrub territory.
The truly playable end of MvC2 is Cable, Storm, Magz, Sentinel, Strider Spiral and Iron Man, now maybe Rogue, and with T Bonne, Cyclops, Capcom, Cammy, Blackheart and Doom mainly for assists, but people have to learn how to use them as well if it comes down to just that character, but other than that, there’s not really anyone else you’re going to see except maybe Iceman and he’s been dead for a while, but honestly all of this is besides the point. The major point here is UMK3 is a game maybe people don’t know enough about, and they think it’s all about gimmicks. The people who liked MK for gimmicks stopped liking it when 3 came out because the focus was gameplay over bells and whistles and a lot of people assume it’s the same, and they are wrong. It’s really pathetic actually that people are that ignorant. When someone has no basis to make a statement, they should remain silent. Jalbert misunderstood what I meant when I said usable characters, he thought I meant, just random characters people use, like sometimes you see some oaf pick Scorpion and you’re like “Just pick Human Smoke.” “Nah I’m good with Scorpion.” But I meant the power players in the game who are usable in tourny situations. He just thought there was simply a top 3 or 4 like any 2D game, there is always Kabal and Human Smoke who are at the top of the top, but there’s 8 other characters who are considerably effective and can beat them if played right, using a lot less effort than the rest of the cast not in said top 10. That list of MvC2 characters is far from objective, about half of that list would be fair, but again it doesn’t change the fact that UMK3 is a great game that many people overlook because of the damn block button, even though the block button is far surperior to proximity blocking, and run, which is > dash.
Matt
Ya im shure im going to see
Dr Doom
Be in the finals at evo.
HAHAHHAHHAHAA.
Fucking scrub. I was at evo. David Lee played Doom in the Finals against Justin Wong. Plus I saw people using top tier teams beaten by players using half the characters on that list.
You won’t see Anakaris @ Evo, because his infinites only work in the arcade IIRC.
At the end of the day the team taking the title at nationals will be a top tier team. MSP, Row, Santhrax, Matrix, MSS, etc. But the people in the top 8 will be rocking a bit more diversity, and the top 32 will definitely have some mid-tier goodness.
Jeebus: That team doesn’t compliment each other, so no, nobody would really play it.
4neqs: Zangief-A is a pretty good AAA that catches some people off guard, I beat Sam B from Portland several times using Storm/Cable/Zangief-A. Gief-Y has setups for guananteed reset combos meaning 1 or no bar 100% combos for Sent and Mags, other characters can take hella advantage too. Check out Murakumo’s videos @ www.zachd.com/mvc2 for some tricks w/ Gief-Y. He’s pretty useless on point though IMO.
Magnifico: Yeah, Guile AAA is pretty good against Sent, you can add him to that list.
Sixty: What? You asked what characters are Tournament usable Not tournament winners. This doesn’t mean you can slap together any 3 characters on that list and have a usable team, but 2 of the big 4 + someone on that list, or characters who complement each other (IM/Doom, Strider/Doom, Rogue/Tron) are also usable. Other characters are viable as countercharacters, EG Felicia vs. Strider/Doom, Dhalsim vs. Mags, etc.