If you’re looking to build a team around zero, go with sentinel or akuma. If you’re looking to build a team of 3 characters with great matchups all around, go with Wesker or Vergil
Atleast now you get the same return. 1 touch and every character is dead. Sure if you get hit, you’re probably dead (although that extra 30k health really helps) but I think getting the first hit is usually in Zero’s favor for the most part. People just run away from me now because they realized fighting Zero is pointless. Need to develop some good Zero strats for catching runners now. (other than just moving towards them till they’re in the corner, which is what I already do lol)
Not really. Zero’s dmg is so spaced dependent.The only time you see Zero one touching someone’ is when the combo starts off in the corner otherwise… he’ never one touches anyone in ultimate. All these combos are based off of 2 assists and a corner or 1 assist and damn near at the corner. I love Zero, but since there’s no Dhc glitch, no one is one touching in tournaments with Zero without Dante or another character. Zero can do 500k easy but who has that much health ? Dr. Doom, Wesker, and many other characters are the ones who are one touching characters.
I think I’m gonna play Zero/Dante/Phoenix. Two combos and i’m at 5 bars, just like vanilla. Zero’s reset game also got a lot scarier making me believe this team would probably work really well. Plus phoenix in the back basically gives Zero two lives, which is godlike.
Off to the lab
goodluck… How are you going to get in with Zero or Are you going to Zone until you get the bars. Also, i don’t think dante can keep people from getting in on you. I was thinking about a similar team that’s why i’m asking
That’s not really true. Unless you’re going corner to corner, you can carry people from mid screen to the corner in 1 combo and still get to 1 million with DHC. You can’t do sentsuizan into buster midscreen but you can still do assist relaunches and jump loops. If I hit you with Zero / Dorm or Zero / Firebrand with Dante in the back, you’re taking 1 million. There’s quite a few characters now that allow Zero’s damage to get pretty high with their assists.
Yeah, I see that, but then again your talking about having Dante finish the combo. I’m talking Zero by himself without acorner. I mean, in order for Zero to be effective, you have to divide your team into 2 characters. One Character that allows you to get in i.e… Doom, Sent, Task, Akuma,Dormau and assist that extends your combo for you to not to do baby dmg… ie Dante,Wesker, Doom. So, one of these assists are always being used constantly. The reason Dante works so well with Zero is because he can come in at the end of a combo, and add another 300k+ and he can extend Zero combos as an assist… also provide some easy lockdown mix ups after killing a character.
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Well yeah, I mean, Zero’s a point character. Any of the “get in” assists can be used off of the relaunch for the first portion, and then a lot of good partner options for Zero can be used at the end to extend the combo in the corner. Dante for example, who’s assist is awesome for Zero in the neutral game, also does the combo extension really well. I don’t think Zero has ever been a by himself character. He’s at his best with assists, at neutral or in combo.
Although for the record, if you run him anchor, he does have some XF3 relaunch stuff by himself lol. Not that this is a good idea.
Off the top of my head for characters I use, Dante, Dorm, Doom, Sentinel, Doctor Strange, Firebrand, Strider, Vergil, Wesker, and quite a few others all have assists that really up Zero’s damage.
But yeah if you used one of your assists in your mixups and you’re comboing off of it, just do the rejump loop to carry them to the corner so you don’t have to worry about needing an assist to pick up mid screen.
May want to consider the Phoenix second deal. If she’s snapped in and dies, you might prefer to have Zero out instead of Dante backed by Zero. I guess in this case they’re both good second characters, but I’d rather have Dante as my anchor than Zero.
I’ve pretty much always had Phoenix second in vanilla. Either Dante/Phoenix/Haggar or Zero/Phoenix/Arthur, sometimes Zero/PhoenixXSentinel (switched order of the last two sometimes). Phoenix is still a stupidly strong character on point, you just gotta throw your TK shot H’s on the ground now, but doesn’t change too much of how she plays.
The only problem though is that all the opponent has to do is 100% Zero and they’re at Phoenix. And because meter build so much slower than before, you’ll probably see people snap back less often, you’ll have to land the first full combo for the meter.
You also may want to put Zero on Hadangeki assist for teleport crossups with both characters. Shippuga works too though, but shorter range.
I think I’m switching to Zero/Doom/Phoenix. Doom on missiles. I don’t need drones (or bolts or unibeam or whatever) to get in with Zero anymore; covering his approaches with lightning cancels gave him everything he needed to not be assist-reliant in the neutral game. The keepaway between Doom missiles and Hadangeki/Lightning-Buster cancels is stupid. This team will win half of its matches just by infuriating the other player. You can also build 3.75 bars with a TAC combo from Zero to Doom (I’m not posting it because it’s a really awkward combo and the position of the TAC in the combo is going to catch a lot of people by surprise so I don’t want to expose it to everyone, sorry). Even if Phoenix gets snapped in Zero/Doom can still do the job no problem and Doom is perfectly capable in XF3.
The other thing I’m considering is Zero/Doom/Firebrand (or any 3rd with a quick assist in the vein of Firebrand’s charge) just for ambiguous mixups on knockdown with hienkyaku to save meter for Doom or my anchor.
I am probably sticking with Dante and Zero now.
Teams I want to try:
- Zero/Dante/Amaterasu
- Zero/Vergil/Dante
- Zero/Viper/Dante
- Zero/Dante/Strider
- Magneto/Zero/Dante
- Trish/Zero/Dante
- Zero/Dante/Sentinel
Guys maybe you can help me, I have no idea how to connect a super on this bnb-
2a 5b 5c 6c 5s jb jb j236h nj j236h buster 623a 2c 5s jb jb jc js j236h buster 623c delay s fast js j236h buster 623a -> ??
i tried alot of stuff but nothing lets me connect the 236PP super any tips?
Just throw in an assist extender, whats your team?
At the moment I wanna rock with Zero, Dante, ??
I know I can do the combo they stated above but I’m still practicing all that stuff so I don’t wanna complicate things too much atm.
BTW what combo should I do midscreen?
I saw someone do w/e to 5s jb jb jc falling jb land jb jb jc land jb buster? or something like that.
It would be nice to get some notations for that :3
If you want mixups for zero: Sentinel or Akuma, If you want damage for zero: Vergil
Also funny how Zero and Dante are still BFF. I like the concept behind Nini’s team (phoenix) im pretty sure it can work, just gotta be careful to not get hit. Im still using team Love triangle (Zero, Vergil, Dante), developing some more strats with them.
I thought Strider was gonna be better honestly, i dont really like him, he’s waaay too fragile and his ouroboros isnt that godlike tbh.
The only char im struggling atm is Vergil, shit that fucker is hard to play, he has a very “different” way of being played,im still trying to get used to him.
Any Zero/Dante users can help me out with a decent DHC after Rekkouha?
All I got is DHC to DT > Acid Rain > j.S > Volcano>Beehive > Stinger > Beehive > Super
I get over 1mil for the combo but I was thinking that there must be a way to juice out more damage with Dante so I don’t have to burn Super
Acid Rain *2 > S > j.S Volcano > Beehive > Stinger > Volcano > Beehive > Super
You’ll have to make use of the DT move Thunderbolt to get any good damage now. It has fixed hitstun, it OTG’s, and leaves room to be comboed after with j.S or Sky Dance if you do it right. It’ll help to have an assist combo in and out of more thunderbolts once they’re on the ground though.
But really, if you can’t break 200k with the DT combo without super, it’s probably not worth it, unless you really need that to kill someone. You’re basically spending a meter to do no damage and give them free meter.
If you want a better DHC, go to Vergil.
Having some trouble with the new hitstun. Removing unnecessary hits and still caps out around 473k (no super). What am I not getting?