How to Stop Worrying and Love the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth - The Ultimate Doctor Strange Thread

definitely. but the way i look at it is dante benefits from assists, not necessarily DoD :m:, but he doesn’t need them; same with morrigan: she can put DoD to good use, but she doesn’t rely on them.
if it were hidden missiles, drones, vajra, etc., then i’d understand. i guess they’ve just been SoV victims in the past lol.
by the way, morrigan’s dark harmonizer indirectly helps dante by giving him at least couple devil triggers.

Dante is 3 times better with horizontal assist :stuck_out_tongue:

I can’t say I agree with snapping in Strange, especially if you don’t have ToD ready for him (with one less bar).
But hell, it made me much better with Strange on point so w/e

oh btw, you can do super jump, yellow grace, yellow grace, fly, yellow grace, FoF for the level 3 beam, teleport!
i’m not sure if you guys already knew that, but i sure didn’t.

my strange gets snapped In now too :[

I actually think Strange needs a buff. A teleport Dhalshim style that puts him away in the screen left or right, with invincible startup if possible. Might cost a bar, like Viper EX specials. It would solve Strange problems on incoming mixups and when dealing with heavy pressure.

8 way airdash, better flight startup, better wavedash/walk speed, better normals, EoA has more durability, etc.

Make it happen Capcom.

eee strange with an air dash! could you imagine?!
i kind of wish EoA stayed on the screen longer; it definitely should have more durability. maybe he could act after using air projectile>flight or move faster while flying. idk.

Strange with an airdash will break the game and you will all be sorry that it happened. EoA has 10 durability points! And then another 10! It just needs to sit higher. But it really doesn’t because it’s still awesome.

Better forward dash. His back wave dash is pretty good actually. Which makes sense because he isn’t a rush down character.

His normals aren’t that bad, you just have to realize they are very specific and will work when utilized appropriately.

His flight should definitely last longer and not be ass startup.

I think Bolts of Balthakk should be special cancelable but that’s about as far as I would tweak him. Make either Mystic sword M or Mystic sword L more safe, but not both.

A bar safe teleport is an interesting idea though.

Thats too much…

All he needs is a quicker flight start up, that lasts longer, and lets him move faster during fly.
Maybe buff cr.m to be an even better anti air, other than that, he’s fine as is.
His damage and meter output is ridiculous. He’s balanced near perfect for what he’s capable of.
He’s strange yet unique,

Of course it’s too much, I’m just venting.

Capcom making atleast 1 of those things happen would be all I’d need.

If I had to pick, it’d either be an 8 way airdash or better normals.

Bolts special-cancellable sounds like an awesome idea though.

Oh god, special-cancelled bolts…wow. That would be cool. Also, his cr. L a bit longer range, and I’d be very fond of a Mystic Sword L that has a hitbox all the way down to the floor.

EOA durability is ***. Wesker gunshots and Frank pie go through it >_>

No recovery for the teleport of illusion, daggers and EOA not disappearing if something touch Strange and a better wavedash would be cool buffs. Mr Dr the backward wavedash is pretty bad if compared to the wavedash and tridash speed of the most of the mid-high tier rushdown characters. But i would trade all that stuff for the invincible teleport…

i hope this doesn’t become a new fad >.<

oh and i agree with illusion’s teleport not having recovery! that’s just stupid! maybe he could have more health, too. i heard he had over 1,000,000 health in the beta lol.

Just give our currently whack-Strange 1 million health, and I’m more than satisfied.

Doom is dumb as f*** and has 1 million. Dormammu has it all, and it has one million. Wesker also does, Spencer has even more.

850K is where Vergil and Magneto stand. If Strange was a mixup machine like them, I’d be cool with it. But he’s not.

i always get jealous when i see dormammu players: he’s a big character, lots of health, 8-way dash, and mixups. his flame carpet used to stay when he got hit, but now it doesn’t. did i forget anything? he has it all.

Wesker’s gunshot is 1 point and the pie gets super good. But they hit you because they skim the EoA and don’t spend any time having the durability points distributed over their own durability.

And that’s because you are wave dashing wrong. You have to dash while rocking the stick between 4 and 1 on the stick or 6-3. This cancels the dash faster than just normal wave dashing.

Oh, and he’s not a rush down character! That comparison is apples to oranges. You should be grateful his backdash doesn’t blow.

EoA would be too good if it didn’t go away. Think vanilla Flame Carpet but worse.

Pie>Magic.

Behold, logic.

You did forget something. Dorm’s got good air-to-airs and a very very safe DHC.

Derp. Dorm’s fun, that’s why I play him. He’s got a crapton of synergy with bolts assist, too. Surprised I don’t see more people using such zoning kings in tandem.

For Strange buffs that almost certainly won’t happen, I’ve been thinking of stuff that wouldn’t make a massive change immediately/make him broken (8-way airdashes would be too much), I would like to see him having a larger hitbox for his j.H, to give him one freakishly good normal. And maybe remove the pushback on his normals, to allow ground strings to chain easier, and to give him an odd niche as far as ground game goes. And perhaps give him only up and down airdashes that could be cancelled into flight, that would make for some more modok-style runaway, as well as a few very cool hitconfirms, and some really fast mixuppy stuff from his H teleport.

Dorm is fun? Lmfao.

I know the term “fun” is subjective, but how on earth is Dorm fun? The dude has like 2 combos. Brainless tri-dashes ferdayz.

I used to be a Dorm main, I racked up a shit ton of wins with him. Dropped him because he’s boring as hell, he’s like auto-pilot mode.

He’s still my 3rd most used character apparently, I have a bit over 2600 uses with him.

I originally picked up Strange because I loved his graces, in my head I was like “OMG THE POSSIBILITIES, I CAN PLACE THESE ANYWHERE, 3 OF THEM!!!”

I’m dead serious lol. Tortonon helping me out was also a nice little bonus that helped sealed the deal :).

Make the fucking teleport crossup in the corner, holy shit. I’m tired of trying to fish for ideas to beat corner up-back. I guess it shouldn’t matter so much anyway since I have Magneto, lol infinites. Got those on deck already, managed to get up to 300+ hits of it.