Anything about the Hugo Vs Ryu Match Up Goes in this Thread.
Videos, Punishes,Tips.
Tips:
D,D,MK(Flying Knee) -Hops Over Fireballs
Punishes
Shoryuken: On Block Use Shoot Backbreaker will they are in the air. or wait till they drop down for a C.Light Kick/S.light Kick xx Clap Combo. SRK FADC Punish with Meat Squasher 360 throw.
Hurricane Kick - On block Punish with 360 Throw (Meat Squasher)
Matchup knowledge here
Seems as if flash kick beats all your meaty options.
Beats fp clap setups, beats empty jump dd mk setups, can beat cross up splash often… What are u using on guile to keep pressure once securing a knockdown?
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How can Hugo deal with his ninja flip throw?
Updating this thread for the next hour or so trying out more punishes. I played Hakan so i’ll be posted stuff for that.
How about my guile discussion? Was it deemed irrelevant?
As I was asking in that thread, none of the meaty claps or leap attack option selects seem to work vs flash kick. Flash kick beats all the Hugo options on guile’s wake up. It even beats cross up splash.
This is a huge detriment in the match. Being able to pressure guile effectively off of a kd is a necessity since u spend most of the round getting it. I guess u could mixup m clap whiffs to punish flash kicks but, then this straight loses to back dash because u can’t use option select ex bb or ultra 2.
What are u guys doing to keep pressure?
Delayed cross up body splash should beat flash kicks, however there is the issue of you losing positioning, but if you are focusing on beating flash kicks and covering back dashes, delay cross up body splash should do it.
please let me know if you have anytips that you would like to add to the match up thread. PM also for quicker update. I am trying to go threw everything. I also try out the stuff to make sure it correct. I don’t like posting wrong info. It been updated of what I can find in this thread.
I couldn’t get a delayed cross up splash to stuff a flash kick. I had flash kicks beat it out clean.
I’m not really concerned with covering back dashes or beating flash kicks, but I am concerned with consistent pressure once I get the knockdown. Let’s say u get a lariat knockdown. What would be your follow up? How would u approach guile?
c.viper, ken, hakan has been updated with punishes that I tried out today. I
Block then punish beats flash kick.
So, your telling me to go with lariat knockdown then whiff mp clap?
I do this to bait the flash kick. I challenge a very good guile locally and he’s pretty much figured out that outside of the whiffed mp clap, he can beat all my other options. Now if I just walk up obviously he’s not going to throwout yolo flash kick. And if I don’t give him any clap mixup, then he’s free to backdash. Thus, I lose cobtrol of pressure. This matchup is Much harder than most zoning match ups
if you block ANY of Guile’s flash kicks, you can start combos with HP Clap for loads of damage.
So focus on safe jumping it.
Yeah I was using that. But my opponent has been playing really smart as of late. Guile tends to build bar pretty easy. When I do get in and dobthebwhiff clap he will flash kick and keep it safe with fadc. I’m trying to figure a way to punish the fadc backdash after blocking the flash kick. The rest of my offensive options seen really limited after getting a knockdown. I typically go for meaty clap. I could probably get more mileage by just empty jumping in after a lariat knockdown. Need more practice with safe jump setups against guile.
Matchup is definitely difficult. Hard to empty jump some of his booms once he recovers. As hard as it is I like the matchup.
On another note vs sakura u can punish most of her tarsus with SPD. I feel good in that matchup.
What do we do in the Honda matchup just played a Honda that spammed headbutt didn’t have a clue how to punish??
Do the regular 4 frame safe jump against him. After LK lariat, dash forward, wait a bit, them jump and splash.
Regular Flash kick is 5 frames, EX is 4 frames.
I’ll try it out. What other safe jumps do u know? I know I can do ex lariat, backdash andthen forward jump but outside of those two idk any.
You can cr.MK, wait a bit (or walk forward a bit) then jump. It’s harder to time than the lariat one, but it can also be a 4 frame safe jump.
Actually maybe I haven’t thought any decent Guiles yet.