ARCADES ARE DEAD.
Let it go already.
Maybe in NJ, not in Houston.
Maybe there was some kind of mistake, I would think that if namco wanted to replace T5, i would actually be able to replace my T5 with something. I don’t see anything to replace the other 99.9% of T5.0 with, what a great replacement…
Its as much of a fallacy as thinking the standard is determined by the people who can play the game well. Being good at the game has rewards, but dictating the rules for everyone else was never one of them. Good players might get some calls and some breaks, but they don’t get to redesign the playing field.
It’s not just copies alone, i’m sure SC3 sold some acceptable amount of copies, but people do not believe there is a scene there, so there is no SC3 championship at evo.
Noone is really above the league, Ronaldinho is useless if there was no soccer, Jordan is useless if was no NBA, and right now the console market is the NBA of gaming, and DR/Arcades in general are the CBA.
this is supposed to be the biggest tournament on the yearly although to me it feels more like a convention now. Tekken DR IS the standard game in the Tekken community. it is no question they should provide it. EVO staff saving money probably means how much of their profit they would need to sacrifice. It shouldnt be beyond anyones’ common sense to think Green Valley Ranch Dressing Hotel hooks it up for the EVO staff to rent out the room for tournament and ect in exchange for all the business EVO staff give them for atleast a full weekend. Im sure the profit is sweet for both sides. the reason I even bother with this subject is because I have a couple buddies in Korea that want to visit me during the summer and this tournament would be the clincher for them to come since they play Tekken. when I told them it might be T5 instead of DR they told me with a giggle, “scrub tournament”. lol.
‘the koreans are laughing at us’ isn’t a terribly convincing argument IMO.
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You guys must have missed something completely, John “Emotiongear” said he would use his two DR kits to help out with the EVO tournament, if need be. John helped host Texas Showdown 6 this year, and overall it was breath of fresh air to actually offer up new games to the tournament instead of the same old same old (not that the same old, same old is bad or anything). Yes I know EVO is a console tournament but I honestly don’t think it would hurt to break the rules for once and start evolving EVO. I mean you’re already doing it by having it at three different locations which honestly, I think it’s nuts. Because not everyone has the budget to actually travel to all three places. So if you guys are making all the top players do more travel for this year’s Evo the least you guys can do is to shell out for Tekken 5 DR kits for rental.
But having EVO at three different places this summer is. If people are going to shell out cash to go to EVO this year. EVO staff needs to find a solution to bring Tekken 5 DR this year and quit this crap with “Oh EVO is a console only tournament”. No wonder why Cigarbob had his unofficial Super Turbo tournament at EVO.
Where do you draw the line though? I mean, 3rd Strike is a bigger money maker than Tekken is at EVO. Plus, the home version is NOT arcade perfect. Should 3S be on arcade? Also, in terms of “evolving EVO”, in case you didn’t know, B series/EVO started as an arcade event, then evolved into a console tourney.
If you have one game on arcade, you have to have all games on arcade, it’s only fair. Especially seeing as how Tekken doesn’t even get the most number of entrants…
ummmm evo isn’t REALLY in 3 locations. It’s only qualifying tournaments to get into the semis. No one has to go the quals. Just go to the main event and compete as usual.
As far as I know there is nothing stating that you can’t have 3rd Strike on arcade format. Only problem I see with that is the limited number of boards that are out there due to the suicide board issue. If you want to make it fair just have EVO back to Arcade so that way people won’t complain about the home versions being not arcade perfect.
Just to clarify, it’s better to think of EVO this year as 3 big tournaments in 3 parts of the country. Calling Evo West and Evo East qualifying tournaments implies that they are somehow a small town affair when they are not. We hope to make them just as slick as the Evo World Finals in Vegas (well, almost as slick 
). You’re right, though, in that all 3 tournaments are open; meaning you don’t have to win in Evo West or Evo East to particulate in the vegas tourney.
Thanks.
It is truly sad when a community that was once vast and grande is reduced to a few hundred die hard fans. In fighting begins and nothing is ever solved. The Tekken 5.0 vs DR issue is really a dead issue. Play it at a tournament or don’t. Just do not complain when you have a community that has stagnated growth or continues to get smaller.
I have to agree with most people in this thread who say that it is better to play what is readily accessable to all than to play the latest and the greatest and not have a tournament option. The Virtua Fighter SoCal community is one great example of this. VF4FT is out in arcades, VF5 is on location tests in San Fran and Japan, yet most of the community still plays and discusses VF4Evo. They do not complain. They do not fetter. They play the game and they enjoy it. They suggest that others interested in playing VF in any form pick up VF4Evo, they do not belittle the new player for not playing FT in the arcade. Any new activity in the community scene is good.
Remember. It is only a game. You are being payed to PLAY a game (if you win a top three spot). Most casual players would kill for a chance to say they can play a game and win money. This is not a time to be ungrateful to the EVO staff, but thank them for the opportunity.
Maybe you haven’t read the 2349872398472 posts that Mr. Wizard has stated, “EVO is a console tournament”.
I’m basically, if you bend the rules for one game (Tekken), you have to bend the rules for all the games. And besides, Tekken didn’t even have the highest turnout this past EVO. Why would the rules be bent for a game that can’t even get the biggest crowd?
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I still say if you arent gonna do tekken properly you shouldnt do it at all, there will just be low turnout and loads of complaining. and as a result the cannons will decide that theres no interest in it and it will get cut from future EVO’s.
And seriously, tell me who is going to spend money to travel to a tournament which doesnt have a game that they play?
not me thats for sure, and its a shame because i like EVO.
Its a good thing that EVO wasnt a console tournament back when games like CVS2, MVC2 or Third strike were only in the arcade while you could only get CVS1, MVC1 and W-impact on DC (not that anyone liked SF3 back then)
I won’t go to an arcade DR tournament and say ‘listen this game isn’t on console, so umm, you guys shouldn’t play’, so there’s no reason to go to a console tournament and tell them not to do something because of what is in a small number of arcades.
If evo wanted to dump tekken (or gg) for some reason there would be no reason to play politics, the game would just be dropped to begin with.
So then why should anyone be expected to travel for DR? Travelling for a game you would prefer not to play is different from travelling for a game that you can’t play.
And all of this is moot anyway, it’s not like DR can’t be at evo, it’s just that the players cannot fathom DR not being the center of the universe, and cannot comprehend why someone would rather let the players handle it themselves then to change the entire tournament format, setup, schedule to accomodate a game with a few copies for the nation that will probably be more popular on PSP than it ever will be in arcades, not to mention it may be at the end of it’s life before evo hits. There are about a million cons, and you can’t talk “you need to make DR players happy” as a big enough pro to counteract that.
If my info is correct, CvS2 was an arcade only game for 1 month before the console versions came out. Also since the release date was Aug 2001, B5 (2001) used CvS1. Then continued with CvS2.
MvC2 was released 06/2000 on DC so it was out before the B4(!) tourney and continued to gain interest mainly because everyone could play and practice on DC.
3s was already out on DC before it’s return to evo, the PS2 release had come out just months before evo, and evo was still small enough to manage with a couple machines and old school tournament planning for main events, so the argument for supergun was acceptable for that year.
EVO is a console only tournament, No arcade machines allowed. even if it is feasible.
its convenient that this happens after most of the 2d games people play have been out on console for years.(GGXX/ being the exception)
and its true, arcades are dead apart from one game or one location here or there.
FMJ you seem to have misunderstood everything i said, or prepared responses to certain points of which i wasnt making.
Um, you practically contradicted yourself with that second point he addressed buddy.
if nobody wants to play 5.0 then let’s drop it for another game. i think there is still time. why waste a slot in the lineup when nobody is going to play it?