The point is people give too much importance to player points, i’ve had someone in a local tournament asking me how much PP I had, he told me he had 4KK with a proud look. I still beat his Ryu because even at his level he had no clue how to approach Seth, that brings me to another point. Highly technical characters are rarely seen online, at least on PSN, Viper, El Fuerte, Gen, Seth and etc… are almost nonexistent online. People will pick characters that are less reliant on advanced links, so chars that have 1framers in their bnbs are out of the question.
Pff, try playing Bullet online 
No :~
>Seth
>Nonexistent online
The fuck game are you playing that albino nude fuck is everywhere online
I did say I was playing on PSN and this is based on my personal experience, tho isn’t it true for Viper, El Fuerte and Gen? Don’t care much for Seth
Fuerte isn’t played because he sucks dick outside of RSF. Viper and Gen are indeed too technical for the average online player though.
It will matter no matter what if the 2 players are equal skill. Sometimes it fucks up my reversal timings as Honda.I am not highest level and sometimes i lose a match by 1 headbutt. Sometimes someone does a slide or something like that and I have 1 frame to punish it with a HHS cause its -6 and cr lp is 5 fr startup, its really easy to miss that online, so easy to hit offline.
It really depends on how you play, I don’t use gimmicks, and I lose to lag sometimes because I will wake up ex headbutt and it should have hit but it doesn’t come out. that’s life, you have to deal with that, but the majority of the time it does come out and I win the matches and thats why I have a good rank online.
I think honestly Fuerte is the stupidest character to play against online because you really need that 1 frame to determine which way you need to block or get out a reversal or not and offline I never seem to come up against these “amazing” Fuerte players. Also a lot of people dont know how to play against them so its a pure gimmick strategy, anyone that understands the matchup will blow them up.
One last thing thats annoying as fuck is tech throws online, i seem to never ever miss them offline but oh all of a sudden gouken is doing that ridiculous backthrow into ultra 1 and there is nothing i can do. So if you choose to play in such a way, that’s great, have fun with those points, but you won’t do shit offline. There are guys who do ridiculous stuff with Honda that I have seen, frankly I just find that hilarious and i dont even know how they are getting wins, but if that is fun to them then props to them.
so my opinion, if you have over 4000PP chances are you play offline and you are damn good or you have some amazing gimmicks and you play a shit load of ranked. But the gimmicky players are less common for sure at that level, most decent players can figure them out. You can really only get so good playing online. you can get a bit better if you are doing endless against good people who aren’t using lag to their advantage but you gotta play offline to be at that top level.
if you think 2 frames doesnt matter then there is no helping you, really
it matters even at the most basic levels
here is an interesting question. If the cpu on hardest participated in ranked matches with one character (ryu), how high would it score? 1500 the most?
4KPP and upwards for sure!
Lol online sf4
0 because most good players don’t play online and just play at their weekly events/tournaments.
4000+. In the 3000+ bracket, there’s still alot of people getting by with party tricks and little adaptability.
I disagree, there are a lot of pro players who are online warriors.
For example the guy who beat F.Champ in Marvel at EVO is an online warrior. And the Marvel netcode is pretty bad.
Off course there will be exceptions to the rule. But in general, most top players aren’t.
Off course there will be exceptions to the rule. But in general, most top players aren’t.
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Maybe you don’t see it so much on PSN, but the top Xbox rankings are littered with well known tourny players, and club players. Gamerbee and Wolfkrone spring to mind.
How strong you perceive an opponent is relative to your own skill. This answer will likely be different for everybody. For the few top placing pros that play online, they are usually 4600 minimum and usually in the 5k’s it seems.
Nevermind my actual vote. A good player can have somewhere between 1 and 100,000 pp
I think even if you start online and eventually become successful offline, the time you spent online still colored your habits. some stuff just doesn’t work online (or some stuff is way better) and you’re always going to carry those habits/conditioning with you. you have to re-condition yourself to get the online-ness out of you.
I think it’s true for any fighting game. I’ve got some really whack movement and spacing habits in 3s that come from playing against your average OE lag Akuma and Urien. I keep a big spacing to allow for those random tatsus and headbutts that I can’t see in time and random block as I’m walking forward in case they decide to throw out a fullscreen tackle that will probably hit me. so now when I play those matchups offline I play them all wrong.
the faster you can cut online play out of your life the better IMO. spend the energy you would’ve spent online and use it to find people in your city to play with.
i think 0
0…but honestly, it depends on how much they’ve had to drink. top players handle business before sitting down to play…it helps them keep their rhythm.