she’s a bad person if she sat down and thought about where diamonds come from, what asking for an expensive engagement ring says about herself through her husband’s eyes, and still wanted one.
nearly every product or service on the planet destroys someone’s happiness by being in place, so I wouldn’t fault anyone who didn’t gaf about creation of diamonds
as for the second part, many girls were just taught to think that way. even if they’re good. in fact, I’d say ESPECIALLY if they’re good because the opinions of others would influence how they felt about the ring
irrelevant to the answer.
stop being so whipped. plain and simple: if she wants an expensive engagement ring, she’s scum.
LOL @ the first two responses in this thread. 
fishjie’s “troll answer” is real talk lol.
<- has a BFA in Metalsmithing & Jewelry, worked as a jeweler for years and made many engagement rings (including my wife’s)
Spend what you can, but DO NOT go into debt buying the ring. Realistically you’re gonna spend an absolute minimum of 5x the price of the ring on the wedding, so save for it and a place to live as the priority.
It’s much more important to try and find some features in a object that you believe your better half was like / appreciate. It doesn’t have to be diamonds, other stones work JUST as well. And if anyone tells you that sapphire / emerald / ruby aren’t the equivalent or more to a diamond, tell them to fuck off as they’re wrong. Don’t fall into the Da Beers diamond bullshit, it’s purely a marketing scheme. And if you do look into getting a diamond, look into conflict free ones from Canada. Otherwise you’re just paying a couple dozen middlemen to buy rocks gained from child slavery.
Also, Kay’s / Jared’s are SUPER overpriced. Find a local jeweler and save 25% or more and get what you want, not what is just in the case the day you walk in.
That being said, if she is bitching about what you got her, is she truly the one you want to bunk down with for life? Think LONG and hard on that one man.
the price shouldnt really matter. be completely honest, and get what you can afford. dont low ball her, and dont overshoot it.
if she seems remotely disappointed seeing the ring when you are asking the question, and youve been honest with yourself, leave her alone
- She shouldn’t complain about the ring.
- How much thought did you put into picking it out?
These two things are contradictory in their implications, I realize. It’s not the size of the ring. But finding something special is a good idea. If someone picked out a shirt for you to wear forever, you’d want to rock something sharp, right?
Future-wife’s ring (3/4k total):
I spent ~$600 on my wife’s ring. 1/2ct solitaire encircled trellis setting. MoissaniteCo special order.
Don’t marry her. She wants a Vanessa Bryant ring
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irrelevant to answer when you’re using that point as leverage for your opinion? whatever. it’s your opinion no matter how little sense it makes
I think these two responses encompass the real reason marriage fails to work: extreme miscommunication.
most women think that getting them a ring is a testament to how much you care about them. even if the woman herself doesn’t believe it, her friends might. which might cause her to have second thoughts about a ring even if she genuinely doesn’t give a fuck how much you paid for it. so yeah, if you put almost no effort into it then that’s off-putting to them. and I can understand them if this is the point of view they’re looking at.
a man’s game, assuming he’s getting married to this bitch for real, is to spend as little money as possible while maximizing her happiness. if any marrying dude could get a 1 cent ring that makes his wife feel like a fucking queen he’d spend not a cent more. some men focus on not spending a lot, others focus on getting her the perfect ring. there’s pros and cons to both approaches.
the miscommunication for women is that if he doesn’t spend a shitload of money on the ring or do anything special to obtain it, it’s like he’s saying “Whelp, here you go, any old ring will do for you.” like he didn’t give a fuck or anything. Women want you to Indiana Jones that shit, that’s what most of them really care about deep down inside if they have a serious, non-financial desire to marry. they don’t give a shit about the money in particular. for men, this miscommunication is that if she has any complaints about the ring, she’s not really in the marriage for him, she’s in it for his money. there’s far more efficient ways to dope a dude out of his cash, ways that don’t involve marrying him. and if she were really a devious money grubbing cunt marrying only for money then she’d accept any piece of shit ring you give her once you put your foot down because she’ll take your shit when she divorces you anyway.
for me, the conclusion’s this: there is nothing wrong with complaining about a ring. to say that one can’t complain about the ring is RIDICULOUS because they’re gonna be wearing that shit. you don’t want to just wear it, you wanna feel awesome wearing that shit. you don’t wanna look at some piece of shit you don’t even really like and be like “oh well”. it’s like you’re both trying to enslave each other, it’s fucking retarded. just as a man has say over how much he’s going to spend on the ring, she should have some say about what she wants in the ring.
and if you both can’t even agree on a fucking ring, both of you really need to evaluate your position in life
edit: fucking hate this thing clumping my posts so tightly
I don’t think you really disagreed with me. Imagine “shouldn’t” being in quotation marks, then see #2. and what followed.
I spent weeks picking out that ring.
not exactly. i gave specific reasons why buying an engagement ring sucks on a human level. you saying “yeah, well, everything sucks” is irrelevant because we aren’t talking about everything. if a girl knows all of the bad shit that happens to get parts of the ring she wants and also knows the financial burden it puts on the person she “loves” and still wants it, she is petty and cruel. doesn’t matter how she was raised or how it looks to her friends. if she’s a considerate and kind person, she’d know not to get one (at least not an authentic one. maybe a Canadian stone or a synthetic).
just saiyan.
You guys are all crazy. LOL @ arguing that engagement rings aren’t logical and that it is impractical that they cost so much.
Of fucking course it isn’t logical, that is the entire point of it.
They are women. Their brains don’t run on cold efficient logic, they run off crazy irrational emotion. They don’t give a shit that it’s senseless to pour all that money into a ring and a wedding instead of something practical like real estate.
They want a big fucking ring to remind them everyday of how they managed to twist your brain into sacrificing money, logic, and your own free will into purchasing this stupid arbritary piece of thing, so that you can ask for her approval to serve her and support her for the rest of her life.
She should by buying YOU shit to convince you to marry her, fuck this insane world.
How the fuck do you think flowers work? You think there’s anything practical in dropping like $50 for a collection of plant genitals that dry out and die in two day’s time?
These are women we are talking about, the joke is on you if you think logic and practicality have ANYTHING to do with entering the equation in the first place.
Bitches be crazy son.
marriage is a thing of the past
go for horny shemale whores instead
Asking SRK for engagement ring advice??? Your Fucked
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Wasn’t the OP outed as a bot…and this thread is still going?
the irony of this post (irony maybe the wrong word), but in ALOT of other cultures, the family of the bride often gives the groom and his family land/property/resources for marrying their daughter.
Its a painful truth wrapped in there. I luckd out with her inhereting the diamond she liked, I only replaced the band. we never had the ceremony though so I stil lhavne’t bought the wedding band or soldered it to her ring, but we’ve talked about adding onto her ring at a later date anyways. But its how I feel about the wedding idea in general, people spend CARS for one day, my logic has yet to wrap my head around it - but thats the norm - its a twisted perverted view of logic…you do recoup ‘some’ of your money via presents, but that in itself is a gamble. It makes infiniteloy more sense to spend the money on something tangible or even a honeymoon…droppin 10k+ on a honeymoon? Oh thats going to be memorable.
But its somethign you have to understand going into it. If you aren’t cool with it, then evaluate your relationship. While it made no sense to me, I was going hard to save up money fo it (the wedding)…then she got pregnant and the wedding ceremony got thrown out the window 
yay no tux/tie.
- :bluu:
I spent a couple hundred on my fianceé’s engagement ring at first because she knew we didn’t have a lot in the way of money, and she was okay with it. We talked about it beforehand and she agreed that later on if she wants to get a bigger diamond, we can put money aside for it and save for that. So rather than really looking for a whole engagement ring, we really shopped more for a setting, put a small diamond in it at first, and will look for better diamonds in the future.
Diamonds are a decent investment too, so if you want to take the path we did and upgrade the ring as you go, you can find yourself actually getting decent money back on the diamonds if you sell to a jeweler who is reasonable about the price.
Also, everyone here who has been talking shit about how women are materialistic is being a hypocrite if they’ve EVER bought something or wanted something because it looked nice. Why do people wear nice clothes or nice shoes, buy nice watches, drive nice cars? Why do people put tints on their cars, lower them, or mod them in other ways? Either because they like it, or because they think it looks good.
Plenty of other things in life, you want because you just like whatever it is. For some reason that you can’t really explain, everyone has something that if they have the money, they’d buy it simply because they want it. It doesn’t have to be logical. Man, woman, it’s all the same. It just so happens that for guys it’s things like watches, belts, ties, shoes, cars, and clothes, whereas for women it’s jewelry, clothes, shoes and purses.
Getting your girl a good engagement ring is important. Don’t get me wrong though – if she wants something that’s outside your price range and isn’t willing to budge, then that’s a different story and she’s being unreasonable. But if you can stay within budget and still find something she really likes, why not do it?