How important is a good engagement ring?

if i’m getting a bitch a lear jet, she better not get pissy she’s not getting a Bentley to ride around in before hand. better enjoy that Accord and shut up.

there’s a diff between being pissy and being concerned

if she’s being pissy then by all means kick her ass out your jet without a parachute

stop being contrary for no reason.

that ain’t what’s hot in the streets.

Guys don’t just buy nice cars and wear nice clothes for themselves. You know why most guys buy nice cards and wear nice clothes?

Because they know that WOMEN like guys who drive nice cars and wear nice clothes.

What was it that Chappelle said? If a man could fuck in a cardboard box, he wouldn’t buy a house.

If you think that impressing bitches have absolutely nothing to do with the number of Porsche sales, the number of shitty $200 t-shirts that are bought, the amount of tint in car windows, the money that’s burnt buying bottle service…then you are delusional.

You are just as delusional if you really believe every man thinks that way. I sincerely hope you’re trolling me.

I have no reason to impress any women, my relationship is stable and I have no desire to have anyone but the woman I already have. Why then, do I still want to own a Porsche? Because I think it will attract the ladies? No, because I think it’s a damn sexy car and I want to own one.

If a man could fuck in a cardboard box it would prove nothing, because sex is not the only motivation in a man’s life. It’s a big one, sure, but it’s not the only one.

Ever have a hobby? Why do people take up hobbies? Because it scores them women? Hell no.

Sometimes you just do things because you enjoy them. Likewise, sometimes you just buy things because you enjoy them.

You’ve lost track of what you’re talking about. Stop talking about your own personal situation, no one is talking about you specifically and no one cares.

Original point of contention is that women are very materialistic, to a degree absurdly beyond that found in men. You’ve said nothing in your series of rambling posts to disprove that at all in the slightest.

Men are not hypocrites. They are not as materialistic as women.

Because a lot of the things that you think and list as men being materialistic is actually just them catering to a woman’s sense of materialism. Cars, clothes, shoes, watches. Doesn’t matter if you don’t specifically buy those to impress women - the point is that men do it in general. You’re saying that doesn’t happen?

Does the opposite situation ever occur? If Beyonce rolled up to your place in a '89 Dodge Caravan, would you tell her to get the fuck out? No, you would still proceed to put your penis in her without prejudice.

Do women buy nice things in the hopes that men will go like “OH SHIT, THAT GIRL OWNS A 50 INCH FLAT SCREEN…I WANT TO FUCK HER SO BAD EVEN THOUGH I AM OTHERWISE IN NO WAY ATTRACTED TO HER PHYSICALLY”? Have you ever looked at a girl and become more sexually attracted to her because she has a nice designer purse or shoes? Do you even notice that shit?

Especially true for an engagement ring, which is the entire fucking point of this entire discussion. Why are you talking about tinting car windows when everyone else is talking about rings?

Do you ever buy diamond rings for yourself because you enjoy them?

There are no hos to save here, Captain.

no idea what you’re talking about, I thought I made myself pretty clear

Men are JUST as materialistic as women, just materialistic about different things. That was my point, which I offered as a counter-argument to people complaining about only women being materialistic. This is why I provided examples about things that guys get materialistic over.

Key word there is every**** man. I acknowledge that you’re right; there are indeed many guys that do it to impress women, but there are also many that don’t.

My ending point in all this is, if she wants a nice ring, sometimes they just want one because they want one. There doesn’t have to be a reason. If a guy can afford it, why not get it for her? That’s all I’m saying.

enough with this captain save a ho bullshit

some men may be materialistic, but they pay for it themselves

women are materialistic, but american women are self entitled, lazy, drunk, pot smoking losers to boot. worse they don’t even know how to cook or clean. all they can do is spread their legs. their men pay for the shit that they want, so they need to STFU and not complain.

True, but you know how SRK loves their misogyny.

Wow, seems like a lot of SRKers had some bad past relationships. If I found that the person I was dating was heavily materialistic I would have broke things off long before engagement ever got in the picture.

But back on the subject of choosing a ring. Be it engagement or wedding, it’s more important that you pick something that symbolizes your love for her than the biggest rock you can find. She needs to see it and know that you actually thought about it and searched for the perfect ring that symbolizes the next step of commitment. If neither of you can get past the dollar signs in this then you’re in for a long hard road. In my opinion anyway. If it makes you happy for some reason to throw all of your hard earned money at a woman then by all means.

I knew the ring I chose for my wife when I saw it. It was just her, in style and the message I was trying to send.

Wish I could like this multiple times. A lot of sexism, misogyny, and extremely crass generalizations on this thread. Hard to believe it’s 2011 looking at this thread.

To the topic, it shouldn’t matter what size the ring is or how much it costs, but to some women it does. That doesn’t necessarily make her a horrible person; it’s possible that that could be the only thing where price matters to her. Everyone has their thing where the price is important to them, male or female, so you shouldn’t just assume she’s a gold-digger because she wants a nice ring.

Now, if this is a pattern, and how much money you spend on things has been an issue throughout the relationship, then you should be having second thoughts.

A good engagement ring is not nearly as important as a solid prenup, you’ll need it.

edit: A bot eh? Point still stands, here’s one for the “MISOGYNY!!! LOSER!!!” manginas/white knights

enjoy

Drop her, any girl who gets upset over the ring you get her isn’t worth it in the long run. I know it sucks to hear because if you’re proposing to her you obviously love her, but I can tell you right now it’s not gonna end well or if it doesn’t end at all you’re gonna be miserable.

Any girl who’s mature enough for marriage and truly loves her man won’t give a damn about the ring. I know people who have gotten their fiances a toy ring and said something along the lines of “I couldn’t afford what I felt you deserved, so take this as a promise for when I CAN afford it”, and I’ve seen girls literally faint on their feet from the guy doing so, not flip out cause he got them a $2 candy ring. It’s all about the moment and if you truly love each other, fuck the material goods.

Just make sure you spend time choosing something you know SHE’LL like, getting her friend to help is always a good idea as long as you know that friend will pick to your girl’s tastes and not her own.

Hell, my last LTR I bought my girl this cheap $30 necklace early on with a little heart charm on the end of it, seemed pretty tacky to me it was just silver I was just thinking “it’s the thought that counts”. Popped it out in the car nicely wrapped and said I got her a surprise. She opened it, her jaw dropped and she said “It’s perfect!”. You can kind of guess where things went from there. And she wore it every single day from then til I broke up with her 9 months later. I got her other jewelry in our relationship that was much more expensive, and she rarely wore the other necklace I got her, only when we went fancy places. That’s because the first one I got was the one that meant the most to her, and she didn’t give a damn what other people thought.

Hell, she took that shit on her family vacation to Cuba and every picture she’s in from that vacation she’s wearing it, even when she was on the beach in her swimsuit. Apparently she brought a bag to put it in when she went swimming.

Point is as long as it’s suited to the girl’s taste and it shows you spent some time picking it out, the cost shouldn’t make shit difference to them.

diamonds have resale value on a similar level to brand new cars

maybe even worse.

they’re really awful

educate yoself

I think putting a great deal of effort into picking an engagement ring is much more important than the price. You should find something that suits the girl and that she will like, HOWEVER if she demands you drop 20K+ on an engagement ring, perhaps you should take a second to think if you want your credit and your ability to retire tied to someone who isn’t all that practical with money. I wouldn’t buy a diamond, they are ridiculously overpriced and diamond miners have some of the worst working conditions in the world.

most women (most) … their life revolves around how they are compared to others… hence why girls check out other girls… a ring is just another thing women want… not for themselves but to show to their gfs or family the kinda ring they got and how well their fiancee did in picking out a ring

i myself rather have a so-so ring and take a nice trip somewhere…that to me is more memorable… or as someone else said…maybe a down payment for a house

every girl is different… if ur girl is the type that knows exactly what kinda wedding she wants…dress…etc… you’re probably expected to perform rather well in the engagement ring department…

most tacky pple think of carat size…and its not about carats…its about cut and clarity…those are important factors gents…

lol fuck that. if i was a diamond miner… id give myself a raise and nobody wouldn’t know shit

I dont know if this is troll subject or not but I’m bored and I thought I would give some old timer advice. Is a ring important sure it is. Do you need to give an arm an leg for one if you cant afford no. I would say you’ll get more out of how you propose to her. Make it special, make it a moment she wont ever forget man.

And once you have 10 to 15 years, some kids, definitely look at something that will blow her mind. And a nice ring goes both ways. A women likes to flaunt to her friends as one person has already stated and as a guy we like the attention that we got something nice for our lady. It’s a bragging tool for men too. Don’t be fooled by some of these guys on this board.

I will say though if you are serious about spending some change on a rock, DO NOT I repeat, DO NOT buy it from a Zales, Herezberg, etc. Go find a broker and you will see how ridiculous the markup is on jewelry.

Best of luck to you.