It is a height matter, it’s also why Sagat can punish all buttslams with c.LP(3 frames startup) into whatever. Seth sometimes misses the SPD(like after blocking 2 hits of the LK buttslam) but it’s a range thing IIRC.
Does the jumping MP still stuff Deejay slide clean? I’ve only managed it to trade. 
It depends on the Deejay and when he activates it. Against good Deejays, MP always misses, at least in my experience. Its probably best NOT to jump DeeJays fire balls at that close of a range anyways. But thats just me.
Silly question for you guys, but how do you open up an opponent into attacking you? Let me give an example.
Take the Adon matchup. It’s apparently really hard for Adon but I’m terrible at it. I watch match vids and learn the overall strategy is spacing and defense, keeping him the hell out (fuck your relentless frametrap pressure!). So I’ll start with the gameplan but eventually they catch on and get timid. After a while of nothing happening I usually start fishing for a poke or something and lose spacing and yada yada lose the round from getting suckered into being the aggressor. This is a huge hole in my game and despite knowing that I start properly I rarely end it right. So how do you get someone who is clearly smart enough to not play dumb to push offensive? And not just life leads either, like at the start of a round.
I wish we had a fireball lol.
Noted. I’ll just stick to walking to them then.
If the opponent is refusing to get close to Honda, then just must walk him to the corner. Once him is cornered, he have much less way to escape any kind of pressure, slam butt works nicely because most people expects a headbutt and will jump on reaction when they heard “sumo” before realising is a slam. This is true for all match ups. If he refuses to do anything, you can pressure with cr lp and/or walk and oicho.
PD: Also you can whiff some oichos, works like a taunt but better since if he keeps doing nothing you get useful meter.
daaamn the Honda boards are dead.
I have one teensy question. When a Blanka player crosses you up then does the jumping double knee attack (sorry do not know the input) and then use Ultra 1 how will you block it? I tried standing block or crouching but it always hits? It’s so weird.
You talking about the ultra 1 cross up? I don’t think it works on honda iirc. Just block it normally.
I could be wrong but ive never been crossed up with that ultra using honda.
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Help? This is a pain in the ass match.
^ hell you’ve done really well on those matches. Though I noticed your patience became short a bit and became reckless the last few rounds like around after you caught him with the buttslam ultra then did the trip. Then after that you fell with his fireball game and he gained confidence and went for the kill.
You we’re really doing good when you have him at the corner in which case he was trying to always get out of ASAP like divekicking out as what I have seen. Those are the times you could have capitalized on in the last few rounds, though a few headbutts costed you to eat a combo and the corner.
Thanks man! Yeah I ended up fatiguing myself toward the end of the set.
I was actually trying to DF HK Fadc backdash to bait the tatsu but had an execution error.
Gouken vs honda has evolved into an extremely tough match, when he has meter there is just no jumping period and his cr hp and the threat of counter make it difficult at the best of times.
Approaching on the ground is tough because of how strong his fireball game is and using focus to go through is often punished by sweep, i havent really got any answers as to what to do in this match, i hate to say go random, but alot of the time thats what works.
Daang that’s too bad. Had you had baited that tatsu and punished him for the win that would have seriously demoralized him lol.
I had this thing at tournaments of looking at the opponent’s arcade stick/hands and when I see them do a fireball that’s my cue to do the appropriate thing HAHA. It feels dirty landing ultra 1 with that 
or in this case with gouken land a jump in combo or doing a headbutt while he does an mp or hp fireball.
Though Stev0 is right sometimes a random thing messes up their rhythm like a random buttslam makes them focus on looking for another buttslam and they lose focus on other aspects. Walking forwards having patience of a monk and try to walk them to the corner is something I wish I could always do. I really don’t want to fall into Gouken’s game.
I think people get hung up a bit on the word “random”. Random to me is making sure you hit all your options, change your followups, alter your approaches, etc. End hands with a buttslam/roundhouse/hands/backdash. Keep from being predictable. Can’t always think that “random” is bad, the best players in the world are the best not just because they are solid as fuck, but because they know how to surprise someone and make it work. Easy to say, hard to do, but its the truth.
Just a quick bit of info for honda’s like myself that do hhs-hhs alot, on a standing ryu its unsafe on hit and can be punished by sweep/super/cr mk.
In the Fei matchup buffering max range Cr jabs into Ex HHS instead of normals hands (or nothing at all which is often the case in this match) allows you to push him back across the screen as well as doing more chip damage and not being potentially rekka punishable like Cr jab xx Hp HHS can be when done at max length.
It also allows u to confirm into pretty good damage combos if the jab hits or potentially oicho resets.
362-408 damage for 2 bars off a cr jab depending on just how “max” range the jab is… if you can pull it off.
Man, you guys are godlike honda players. I have been playing him for about two months and I find that my honda needs help. I play on XBOX live and my gamer tag is HADdaHUSTLA. hit me up and I will respond to any Honda help. Thank you.
These forums really need to pick up (activity wise)
There should be a Honda GD where everyone can just chat and share thoughts. Like Mike Ross at CEO, that was some boss Honda play.
i agree. i check this everyday for nothing.
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Did a FT10 last Saturday and I will have some more matches of me getting my ass kicked later.