Honda Combos

stev0knev022 · October 7, 2011, 12:28am

awesome work gutabo !!!

Carltwo · October 7, 2011, 1:13am

this is really good, thanks a lot.

Deadsider · October 7, 2011, 6:32am

Great stuff my man, I just wish some of this worked on tougher matchups lol

gutabo · October 8, 2011, 7:24am

Thanks guys! Regarding my last post, HERE’S THE SECOND PART OF THE VIDEO. Now you know why my hands are still hurting! Sorry for the delay, my friend was trying to make a nicer vid(with transitions, bg music, etc) but there’s not much you can do with the low quality of the source and he was taking too long so I said what the heck, let’s upload it right now!

EDIT: I added Hakan in my post above. And just for the heck of it:

HONDA(crouching): s.MK has to be cancelled quickly. Note that there are no combos starting with c.MK, since it needs the positioning nj.HK gives.

c.LK, c.LK, c.LP xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, HP headbutt: 261dmg
c.LK, c.LK, c.LK, c.LP xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, U1: 340dmg
c.LK, c.LK, c.LP xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, super: 391dmg (full meter)
c.LK, c.LK, c.LP xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, U1: 395dmg
nj.HK, c.MK xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, s.HP: 396dmg (yeah, it’s the jesus chop in a combo!)
crossup j.MK, c.LK, c.LK, c.LP xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, U1: 418dmg
crossup j.MK, c.LK, c.LK, c.LP xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, super: 425dmg (full meter)
nj.HK, c.MK xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, HP headbutt: 432dmg
nj.HK, c.MK xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, HP hands, HP hands, s.HK: 439dmg, 425dmg with only one HP hands rep. before the s.HK
crossup j.MK, c.LK, c.LP xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, super: 472dmg (full meter)
crossup j.MK, c.LK, c.LP xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, U1: 476dmg
j.HK, s.MK xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, super: 554dmg (full meter), 493dmg without the j.HK
j.HK, s.MK xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, U1: 569dmg, 519dmg without the j.HK
crossup j.MK, s.MK xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, super: 522dmg (full meter)
crossup j.MK, s.MK xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, U1: 537dmg
nj.HK, s.MK xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, super: 574dmg (full meter)
nj.HK, s.MK xx HP hands, ext. MP hands, U1: 587dmg
nj.HK, c.MK xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, super: 588dmg
nj.HK, c.MK xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, s.HP xx super: 596dmg (yeah, it’s the jesus chop in a combo! full meter)
nj.HK, c.MK xx MP hands, ext. MP hands, U1: 600dmg

Mystic_Kal · October 12, 2011, 3:46am

had this discussion with a friend of mine about whether EX Hands is effective or not in a practical match. I’ve currently been trying cr.lp xx EX hands link into cr.lp xx HP Hands HK as a punishing move.t

On oneside Honda needs EX meter for EX headbutts especially for anti-air in AE.

But my argument was that EX hands is a punishing combo (in regards to the combo I mentioned above) and even if you don’t link, can frame trap into HP hands, butt slam or Ochio after the hands since moving forward brings you very close to your opponent.

(Just a note that I would not use EX hands for grapplers like Gief and Hawk but the other characters still apply)

gutabo · December 17, 2011, 3:04am

I posted this HEREbut it might get lost in the chaos so I’m posting it again here.

[INDENT=1]Hey guys, yesterday I went to my friend’s place again, and you know what that means: lab time! Unfortunately my friend had to leave early so I could test only some stuff. I mostly tried to find more characters the HP hands x3 might work on. AFAIknew, it only worked on standing Dee Jay, T. Hawk and Zangief. Well, that has changed for great justice (thanks to dontgetbloodon for giving me something to start on:guy!), the notation is “character name, standing/crouching: moves you can start the first HP hands with, if you can combo it after a lvl 2/3 focus”, it might be incomplete tho:[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1] [/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]CHARACTERS THAT HP HANDS x3 WORKS ON(or that I could confirm yesterday)[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1] [/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Akuma (crouching): c.MK[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Blanka (standing): s.LP, focus ok[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Cody (crouching): c.MK[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Dee Jay (standing): c.LP, focus ok[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Dee Jay (crouching): s/c.LP, c.MK[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]El Fuerte (crouching): c.MK[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Guy (standing): s/c.LP, c.MK, focus ok (thx dontgetbloodon!)[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Oni (crouching): c.MK[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Seth (standing): c.MK, focus ok[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]T. Hawk (standing): s/c.LP, c.MK[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Zangief (standing): s/c.LP, c.MK, focus ok[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Zangief (crouching): s/c.LP, c.MK[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1] [/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Hey, I said hands x3 worked on more chars, not that I had practical setups for them! I have to do more testing with jumping attacks as starters and stuff. Oh and by the way, I would like to welcome Rose with great pleasure to our “HP hands into c.MK” club![/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]You can do against a crouching Rose:[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]Jumping attack, attack into MP/HP hands, c.MK xx EX headbutt[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]The c.MK hits kinda late BTW.[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1] [/INDENT]
[INDENT=1]I couldn’t test the extended hands variations since I didn’t have much time, and I started to use turbo in the middle of the tests because my hands were all sore after a long time not playing the game I have some crappy footage as always so lemme know if you want another of my crappy vids :razzy:[/INDENT]

stev0knev022 · January 20, 2012, 2:28am

Nice little punish combo or confirm off a close fierce if you can pull it off.

Cl Hp - Jab xx EX-HHS - jab xx HHS - RH (413 damage).

Works on **: **

ABEL
**AKUMA **(397 damage due to farcical hitboxes)
BALROG
**BLANKA **
CAMMY
CHUN LI
CODY
DHALSIM
**EL FUERTE **
GOUKEN
**GUY **
**HONDA **
ONI
**T HAWK **
VEGA
**YANG **
YUN
ZANGIEF

On characters where the RH won’t reach a variation ending in another HHS instead does 395 damage and works on **: **

BISON
FEI LONG
GEN
**GUILE **(371 Damage)
HAKAN
IBUKI
JURI
SAGAT
SETH

pieton · April 1, 2012, 7:02pm

Ive check Akimo input he does hold stick forward when doing a st.hk after hands. Is there any reason what its not better to keep
your charge and to st.hk with stick back ?

Deadsider · April 2, 2012, 3:06am

Its an easy link so you get a small walk forward to help it connect.

pieton · April 2, 2012, 11:34pm

Thx, you mean if I connect it at the last frame of the 3 frames window Honda will take a mini walk forward instead of backward.

I think Ive played your honda couple of times on Xbox, my game tag is Pranapieton , play Ryu.

Deadsider · April 3, 2012, 7:36am

Yeah I remember you, good games but your OS SRK’s were wrecking me. I gotta just let it ride lol.

But to further the question, yeah. If you hold back there is a chance you might walk just enough to be out of range and whiff the roundhouse, as depending on spacing hitboxes for Honda’s combos are strange and I know I’ve definitely missed it before. Course if you are sure you don’t need the walk forward might as well get a charge ready and see where things go from there. Both are good though.

pieton · April 3, 2012, 4:02pm

It got worse in 2012 since OS hp srk gained 1 extra invincibility and do 160 dammage. Use to trade in AE and Ryu had
to use mp srk. Theres really no other choice than to block from sweep safe jump safe up. You may take a gamble vs a throw
set up since you get a good chance to trade or beat Os srk if ryu dont do a perfect safe jump.

Thx, it does seem its more realiable when I hold forward at least in very close case.

Deadsider · April 4, 2012, 8:49am

Didn’t know that, that’s good info. Thanks man, look forward to playing you again in the future!

IgTerminals · May 6, 2012, 12:18am

I’m having some small problems with cr.jab xx f.HHS.
If I do it off a jumping attack, including jumping RH, I can pull the combo 95%+. However, raw I only pull it about 50 - 60%. Is this anything to do with the jumping attacks hitstun making it easier, or is this just me being a bit rubbish?

IgTerminals · May 6, 2012, 2:14am

Forget my previous post. Been struggling for over a week, post above, then half hour later pulled it raw 20 times in a row.
So, uh…thanks? :S

bike_seat · May 6, 2012, 11:55am

How exactly do I do cr. mk xx hhs? I’ve seen it done quite frequently by mr. snk and mike ross but I have no idea how to do it

help?

MLGFearless · May 7, 2012, 11:27pm

Press MK and LP at the same time, then the rest of the HHS inputs.

fizzywoemac · June 23, 2012, 8:06am

Quick question: is the st.rh after jab handslap plinkable?

Nybb · June 23, 2012, 11:01am

Sure. Any link into a normal is plinkable – just plink with a “weaker” button, and don’t forget that punches are also weaker than kicks of the same strength. Only jabs and standing light kicks are unplinkable (because if you try to plink st.LK with st.LP you just get throw).

I’ve been working on using more EX hands combos, and I connected with my first j.HK, cr.MK xx EX Hands, cr.LP xx HP Hands, st.HK in a match the other day. Feels pretty boss, haha.

Deadsider · June 23, 2012, 9:01pm

Except that you are probably better off double tapping instead of plinking because its a 3f link.