Like a grounded Magnetic Blast? Makes sense. I will try that. My other option was to purchase a hit box.
I actually agree with you regarding Shuma in the 2nd position. DHC’ing into HMR/HMS isn’t terrible from Biohazard Assault as it corner carries. I planned on moving Shuma to anchor once my gameplay improved with him. Putting him on point appears to be his best position, but this can be said about most characters. As an anchor, I doubt he will be as threatening as Vergil or Strider, but I think he’s at least capable.
Thank you for the advice.
Has anyone tried hard-tagging off of Shuma’s command grab?
Hung out with fanatiq this weekend and had some shuma discussion. He really thinks Shuma is better than Storm with I entirely disagree but he chalked it up mostly to him having undiscovered talent/potential which I agree with (hopefully).
In other news his spencer team with akuma assist was way harder for me than his MSS since I feel shuma beats drones but shuma is useless against tatsu assist.
S + Attack replaced the charge motion for mystic stare
S + M Attack would shoot mystic stare at an up angle
His S attack was his old MVC2 Heavy Leg attack with the same hitstun as magnetos current H.
His current S attack was a command normal. I’d prefer Down + Heavy
As you said, his mystic smash moves are way too weak. Getting airthrown out of them plain sucks.
His dash is pretty good, but he gets zoned out WAY too easily. Changing his Mystic Stare to be USEABLE in a firefight would be ideal.
I love the character and I have a long way to go with him, but when your best move is a charge, you have problems in a game that moves as fast as this.
one thing i do love about his :s: is that its a 7 frame start up which I think is the fastest :s: in the cast but thats not saying much, his 4 frame jab is great though.
I guess he could if he wanted, but seeing his many built in taunts and stuff make me think his main purpose is styling. That damn pose even prevented him from comboing of the throw in vanilla (eyeball stuff aside ).
You can be stylish or effective. In my opinion Shuma found the perfect balance of that since ultimate (although his poses after the supers screwed me several times).
Oh, and to answer the original question: No hard tag stuff from the command throw, normal throw or late jumping S (with launch and without). Sometimes you can get a hard tag of midscreen HMS when the balls are slow and you eyeballs explode in the correct moment. I was able to relaunch with Doom once in an online match, felt incredibly good. Still pretty useless because of the randomness of HMS.
The most I’ve gotten from out-of-corner midscreen is 680k using Wesker OTG assist with bombs detonating right as they recover. After you stick bombs on them just do j:m::h::u::h:Mystic Smash:m:, then dash backwards so you’re right in front of the opponent again and j:s: so they land right next to you, call Wesker and j:s: them again and finish with stare into HMR. I wish HMS actually OTG’d consistently, 4/5 times it fails.
Shuma-Gorath shows up in a new piece of artwork from UDON! And what an artwork it is! If only Capcom had hired more artists like this guy to draw the official art for the game…
just now realized that shuma doesn’t get pushed off the opponent in the corner off of the bite from the chaos dimension start up. feel like an idiot now.
and to those who say shumas worst spot is 2nd because he has no good DHCs, i play him 2nd instead of 3rd because of how damaging and invincible his DHCs are. nothing beats DHCing into hyper mystic smash if timed correctly. not viper, not joe, and not even gamma crush if delayed long enough. people don’t expect that super to have invincibility, and if they do hit him out of it he’s already tossed a few balls on the screen anyway which are going to trade and not win unless you’re dealing with a full screen beam super
That’s so true. 2 days ago, I punished this Gamma Crush using a DHC into Hyper Mystic Smash. I play Shuma-Gorath on second spot, too. Mostly because he has some surprisingly good DHC synergy with both Viewtiful Joe and MODOK, haha.
Good stuff to foo and angelic for repping shuma, esp foo for playing him point, which is the future of shuma imo. It was pretty funny how clueless commentators were about the character. They had an orgasm whenever a long shuma combo was landed. Good stuff :tup:
Gimme a bit and i’ll shuffle them up from the ReveLAtion archives in a minute or three. Well played, Foo!
(Ah, found Angelic’s matches during the team tournament… but unfortunately, it wasn’t much of a showing since either Shuma got offed before he could do much or was forced into a no-XF anchor fight against JWong’s full team. Better luck next time!)
Foo VS Danimals: www.twitch.tv/teamhazmat/b/329100829?t=5h2m10s
Foo VS Dios X: www.twitch.tv/teamhazmat/b/329100829?t=8h14m58s
Sorry guys, I don’t use him on point because I think his assist is too good.
Nice meeting Pgorath and Foo, I don’t think so many shuma players have been in one location ever!
Also I’m convinced that Shuma/Doom/Amaterasu is the best shuma team
:h::u::h:Mystic Smash:m:, then dash backwards so you’re right in front of the opponent again and j:s: so they land right next to you, call Wesker and j:s: them again and finish with stare into HMR. I wish HMS actually OTG’d consistently, 4/5 times it fails.