I’ll take a tougher dorm over a dorm sitting in the corner with flame carpet in front of him immune to shuma any day.
It’s just the unblockable part of his level 3 that does 435k, with the bite it does do 485k.
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So capcom’s leaving shuma bottom teir? Why did they nag marvel to let them put him in the game if they weren’t going to let him be competitive?
Yo, snadmonkey you think he’s mostly buffed or nerfed from what you’ve seen so far?
Along with the changes they’ve made to him, I think all they really would have needed to add to bump him up to possibly mid tier is greater priority on his mystic smashes and the ability to absorb more than one hit with devitalization. But then again, to make him better than low-mid or mid there is alot more they could’ve done as well…
There’s no questioning that he’s been buffed. The removal of the otg property of his jumping s doesn’t affect him in the least, considering nobody used it in that way. Making it a hard knockdown also gives him the ability to actually combo when not in a corner. The addition of mashing to Hyper Mystic Smash and Chaos Dimension give him an increase to his damage output, which is good. The addition of meter draining to his grab is mostly pointless, but it’s pretty good if you end on a grab against Phoenix, if you manage to get next to her.
While he’s still no high tier character, he’s probably around mid-tier now. Two of his biggest problems, having low damage output and very little midscreen combo potential, have been mostly solved through his changes.
Shuma’s not bottom tier, he’s lower mid. And now definitely a solid mid due to the J.S buff.
-Shuma now has midscreen options, tacking on his Hard Knockdown J.S to the end of a jump cancelable ground loop will allow him to HC into an OTG Hyper Mystic Smash (which is mashable for extra damage), this equates to a very respectable 550k to 575k from anywhere on screen.
-Shuma has amazing mix-up options in corners due to his Rapid Fire High and Low Lights, Also his crouching medium is amazing poke that catches tech-rolling opponent’s off guard, A good shuma player can link crouching med into a damaging ground loop combo.
-Mystic Stare eyeballs become permanently attached when Shuma is tagged out. This mean’s you have a nearly safe hard tag for an incoming character.
-Shuma’s J.M is an amazing cross-up that strikes High but can be executed low, Also if used directly above the opponent it causes a screen switch and it’s very difficult for the opponent to decide which way to block.
-Yes, Mystic Smash has abysmal priority; but when covered by a Dagger/arrow assist Shuma is protected from being knocked out of it.
-Cr.H allows Shuma to instant overhead with Mystic Smash L OR J.S , it’s a great High/Low mix-up that allows him to keep the pressure on.
-Shuma’s Hyper Mystic Ray is a very good OTG Super that leaves a lot of potential follow-up.
What about that anti-counter on the aerial exchange with the mystic stare? doesn’t that make “his” damage super good, that you can almost always end a combo with a level 3 after?
My opinion on shuma is that he was buffed slightly. His lvl 3 actually being able to possibly kill an 800k health char with lvl 3 xfactor chaos dimension raw would be nice. I also assume that his frame data tweak will make mystic smash slightly better, at least tall characters won’t be able to punish it with a grab in the corner i’m hoping. I hate that otg S was removed cause I used it in almost all my combos if I had an assist, it was an ez way to add 100k to any grab or combo.
In regards to shuma’s instant overhead, its not very good . Its not even instant by any means and if you try and go like c.H into overhead an advance guard means you die. His supers are still on the weak side of things in utility/damage/dhc possiblities imo. The possible ability to combo into a super from anywhere on screen will be nice but thats not even assure, did some testing on it you still might not be able to link them from ending midscreen. I still want to see if you can super or something after devilization. Overall shuma looks to have slight buffs, the problem is that lots of charactets got ALOT better. I mean look at chars like cpt. america, dr strange, trish. He still is way behind the other characters in ability. Also a lack of high priority or super move in the air makes his air xfactor less scary than most.
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Wow…creepy. I kinda don’t like old Shuma lol
Holy crap, that’s fucking disgusting!
For anyone curious where the Shuma alt comes from, it’s actually not Shuma himself but a disciple of his named Quaggoth. It’s from Wolverine First Class #12, which is not a canon story in the Marvel Universe, but since Shuma (Or anything like him) has only been in around 15 issues, they don’t have much to choose from.
Top hat and monocole would of been 1000x better.
But I remember Quaggoth, I just wish he didn’t look so disgusting in that screen cap.
Hmm that threw me off though, I could swore they were going for hyborian Shuma
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Chaos dimension is slightly different with the alt costume. The costume is also free!!
Wow, his alt costume is fucking awesome! It’s the kind of alt costume that I would even consider using (not a fan of alt costumes). Also, it is a nice touch on Capcom’s part that it comes for free!
Nice find, dude! You just spared me several minutes of trying to find where his alt costume came from on Google.
Jeez, they weren’t kidding when they said that his alt costume was “pretty obscure”! This is like obscurer than obscure.
How did you find out where it came from so fast?
With Ultimate coming out, I think I may try Shuma. He’s still going to be low tier at best, but I think he looks pretty fun.
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New MSS.
same. Honestly, there’s no character I wont play, and a fun character is a fun character, no matter how low tier they are.
I’ve always liked shuma and always will
I don’t even think he’ll be that low on the tier charts.
There are certainly characters that are looking worse than him.
I don’t play Shuma, but damn I gotta troll with that new alt…if I don’t have nightmares from it first.
If only alts had some kind of effect. Could you imagine Mystic Ray and Hyper Mystic Ray coming from that alt? Needless to say, it’d hit the entire screen.