He was playing arcade edition Guy in edition select.
wtf haha
Yea… i knew that… … how do you edit posts again?
From the Northwest Majors build:
Combofiend has no idea what he’s talking about then. The Guy match up is no more scary or reputable than Super.
Guy is still only dangerous if you make dumb mistake or you like taking bait to look flashy… or you still haven’t learned the match up.
i agree. theres nothign in the change list that smind blowing.and i still dont see anything he can do with red focus comboes. all his special moves are knockdown.
You’re not looking at this properly. Currently the characters that are doing well in Ultra are characters with good ground games and dish out great damage. Combofiend, CCG Air and KIM1234 (who lives in Japan) all state Guy is very very good in Ultra. Most red focus combos we’ve seen haven’t done a lot of damage I don’t think Guy would need it for anything outside of a midscreen combo for Ultra and only if you don’t have super stocked. So essentially Guy doesn’t need a EX Red Focus cancel for his game but it’s still there if you want to use it. Air reported that his HK and LK are really good. So far guy has been on the top of the list or the Arcadia list oof Ultra Arcade and testers have stated he’s very good so it’s quite possible due to the change of meta that he has been favoured strongly now.
I totally agree, and also think that it’s very easy for Guy to cover all bases with his post-hard knockdown setups if the opponent delays wakeup or not. Whereas other characters have to commit to their safe jump setups, so they will be less likely to use them. Delayed wakeup will be but a very minor inconvenience for Guy players.
I disagree completely, I think they were talking with the arcade buff in mind (overheards>>ex kicks for example). I absolutely dont care about hk/lk being good antiair, that’s a strawman. He had one good all purpose AA now we have 2 situational ones, guess what I prefer? Our bad match up are worse (chun, rose, guile etc) With DWu our corner/knockdown game is way less scary. Our fadc ultra is still hard as fuck ( I still fuck up sometimes after a few days without playing) Heck we can’t even link cr.lk after run overhead like before, seriously capcom is so stupid sometimes, why in hell do you nerf that?
Air is currently playing ultra at NWM and vryu another player that said guy was strong was at stunfest and both those. Builds were entirely new builds
Also I must add, the run overhead doesn’t hit twice on crouchers consistently, also don’t say it was nerfed… A lot of guy players wanted it buffed to destroy focus attacks, that was the price you paid for having the hitnpx adjusted. Also the knockdown and corner game isn’t messed with at all. If they delay wakeup you aren’t committing to anything unsafe unless you frequently OS and if you don’t even jump while they are in the corner nothing lost for you, you have the corner advantage still, and there are moves you can still OS and still be safe via hitting on a later active frame if you do decide to jump and they don’t reversal. In the corner go for soft knockdowns, you don’t lose pressure and if they quickstand they still have to block, if they don’t quick stand you can switch sides to have the corner advantage again… FADC into Ultra is on your own fault, its not like every FADC is braindead easy… even the members of EG drop FADC ultra/ His st.hk AA isn’t situational at all, and cr.mp still exists as an anti air just not OD anymore. His St.HK is the exact same as his current cr.mp for more damage and active frames.
Guile isn’t a bad matchup either, that matchup is even. It’s only bad if you make it bad by not playing with patience, you’ve got to understand he’s going to throw booms and you’re likely to take chip damage his Ultra was nerfed in the recent builds where it still auto corretts but the startup is slower and it doesn’t autocorrect as easily apparently.
You’re looking at everything on paper and believing everything is going bad for the character even despite remarks of Guy being very good
ST HK got a MEGA buff… not only more active frames but 1 less start up frame also and less recovery… ST HK will be the new go to move overall… and btw im done until the release of the console version… i knew the japan release was a test run. theres no way in hell they were gonna leave guile the way they buffed him. ima start paying more attention to vega… hes turning out to be very good…
You sound almost like a capcom rep, buddy lol. Take a nerf and make it look good.
No seriously cr.mp is clearly a nerf despite everything you say, even combofiend said the change was a nerf. they gave us 2 different button because it was supposed to be too strong (sak, guile, juri, rose say Hi). The only good news for me in ultra is the -1 frame on runstop. That’s all. Ok the walkspeed too, if it’s noticeable. Now compare that with the glorious buff of the rest of the cast
They give you 2 buttons that are good, and you complain about losing one that is still usable. Have you even played at the loketests? Because I have and st.hk was good from NEC and is still good at the current build which is the 2nd to last build until console release. Even at the NEC build and current build you can AA with Cr.MP but it requires spacing it basically won’t be good directly on top of Guy, and if you even watched the footage of Guy in USF4 and saw how well st.hk covered Guy from an aerial approach when used it was remarkably good. So why are you going to complain about an AA that grants you more damage and stun and is active for 5 frames when the previous go-to was active for 3 and gave you less damage and stun. It’s been known cr.mp is a nerf but it honestly isn’t a nerf where it’s completely unusable.
Even Tokido who has played the new build of Ultra and played the Arcade still states Guy strong is a strong character.
Guy in AE currently is mid tier, the adjustments he got even despite the “nerfs” he received have given him a strong running to be top 10 or even top 5. Let the game flow and we’ll see how it pans out in console release but if the character has been good since the start of beta tests and still is good. I think it’s pretty set that Guy is good in Ultra.
Goodbye 2f ex tatsu, you were so young…
hmm. well they could have made it 3f. Regardless,it going to be fun learning news way to play Guy again, complaining about nerfs isn’t really my style. Get better and find ways and answers around them. I’m gonna have alot of fun with red focus.
As a chun player I know the pain of having to guard most jump in because guessing every time is too much risk to take. Valmaster does that too.
I ve played guy in a locktest in paris and I wasn’t that much impressed by HK. It doesn’t cover everything like cr.mp did. Now I didn’t play that much and I didn’t have the perfect timing yet.
But we all know why they made the Nerf, they want us to have different button to use depending on the angle, the character and the jumpin attack, instead of one that could cover most situations. I dont wanna be in a position where people adjust to our new situational Aas and find buttons to beat them, where I have to guess if i should use lk or HK for this or that.
Did i not just say cr.mp is still usable. I played a beta build, and outside at the worst I traded with st.hk otherwise I beat jumpins cleanly when I used it. ST.HK in current AE is a useful AA as well If you didn’t have perfect timing then that is on your own fault. As a Guy player I know what tools are good for my character and how to use them properly. Guy has several AA options, people just don’t want to utilize all of them, even in past games no every character had one go-to button, and even cr.mp was beaten by jump ins as well or traded and most of the time those trades weren’t in our favour in terms of damage.
im still not gonna believe what ppl say about tiers when th eggame isnt even a month old. remember JW saying adon sucked in super? look what happened lol. we will truly see how good guy will turn out in the end but honestly i dont see him past high mid. especially from players that dont even main him, even if there top players.i still havent seen a vid from a top palyer that mains guy to see if he truly is good. i might sound like a negative nancy but after all the past versions where everyone says guys is better guy is this and that and in the end he doesnt end up as good as we want him to be can you blame me? lol
Did you not watch the videos posted of USF4 Guy from the jap builds, Kiyo was just featured in a few.
nah. havent seen anyone posted those. link?