Guy Ultra SF4 Changes

While I can see where you’re coming from (and to an extent agree that it SHOULD work) you can just do run slide after the MP. You can visually confirm this is safe to do as you’re hitting cr. Lk the second time.

After losing a few games to crouching Sakuras and Codys, you learn to adapt :stuck_out_tongue:

My pet hates are bushin chain whiffing on Abel unless you’re at point blank range, and only 3 hits of EX tatsu on Balrog.

Sakura I’ve just learned to never use TC on her, her reeling back animation and hurtbox is just frustratingly small.

I’ve been doing this lately but my execution isn’t that great, i can link it like 75% of the time but those 25% really hurt me. I hope i get used to it in time.

But anyway good news for us because it seems my wish was granted! Look at the archieve @14:50: http://www.twitch.tv/yubiken/b/522611312

I have nothing to add but whenever I see this thread come up in the “What’s new” column I always think it say’s “Gay Ultra SF4 Changes.”

That match against Gief also shows how effective st.hk is at close range jumps.

yeah, but did you see Guy’s st.mp miss after CH cr.hp vs Juri?
its at 2:31:20. Shit, I have been watching almost 3 hours, damn.

AE hitboxes. it’s quite annoying how often things like that happen in the game,

Why does Bushin Flip not grab Focuses? With all the change talk we had… never put that one up.

It grabs focuses, however some focuses have a lower hitbox, Guy is capable of grabbing everyone’s focus last I checked

Which focuses do you mean? There are a few characters who can avoid the grab by doing a focus with crouch or lean back (off the top of my head; Bison, Balrog, Akuma, Fei Long, Blanka, Seth, Juri and Sakura all spring to mind) where it would have grabbed them if they just stood there. So they use the focus animation to evade the grab box of the flip, so elbow drop comes out - which will more than likely get immediately punished by the focus attack.

However from right up close, every focus charge animation in the game can be bushin flip grabbed. You will normally only fall victim to the focus evasion if you are randomly MP/HP/EX flipping across the screen, which is usually bad practice anyway.

AA standing Roundhouse looked damn good in that gief match.

Early Tier discussion in Japan has Guy ranked as a strong character.

Well i think the 2f ex-tatsu cancel is really moving him some tiers up… but the chances of this staying are slim. He’ll still be really good in Ultra probably.

I think its far past the 2 frame reversal for few reasons, most of the characters that are listed in the strong character excel well on the ground game and okizeme

Strong
Cammy, Guy, Ibuki, T. Hawk, Chun-Li, Evil Ryu, Adon, Sagat, Yun, Yang

Fairly Strong
Ryu, Akuma, Rose, C. Viper, Makoto, Sakura

You’ll notice Ken isn’t there, yet anyways because people need to figure out other tools for him. It’s early yes but Guy will likely still stay on the strong side. Looks like his small buffs and such have aided him well.

Some guy said that close stHp CH ~ Run Stop, stHp should work now. I also agree that Guy should be strong in Ultra.

Only if it’s still Close HP. Far HP won’t connect.

Wow does close HK even come out on airborne opponents anymore? That far HK AA looks very close, I love it.

A little TLC went a long way for Guy.

Posting Ryan Hart playing Guy in case anyone missed it https://youtube.com/watch?v=AdfPA49q4sA

At 05:05 Ryan hit the overhead once instead of 2 times, so i imagine it is still possible in USFIV to connect a cr.lk after, right?