he was pretty much the voice of Thanos there, going to the planets and asking for the tribute.
I’d like to see the Black Order each get one of the Stones, then when they fail, Thanos uses them all, himself.
he was pretty much the voice of Thanos there, going to the planets and asking for the tribute.
I’d like to see the Black Order each get one of the Stones, then when they fail, Thanos uses them all, himself.
If you’ve never read any Thor then I have no reason to take any argument you have on this topic seriously. However as a curtesy I’ll educate you a bit on his history. Thor is not a tittle or some occupation, it’s a birth name in the same way reed Richards and Bruce Wayne are. Unlike spiderman or batman, which is in fact a tittle, Thor can’t simply be “passed on"for the same reason Peter Parker can’t just say"you are now the new Peter Parker.”
Thor therefore isn’t a title but instead a identity, defined by decades of history and characterization. This in turn comes back to my original point which is why must a female character thrive off the disempowerment of a male character. In all fairness whenever there is a new female character for titles such as ghost rider or captain marvel, they are always separate individuals and people who are just assuming the persona…but never are they actually the same person with the same birth name and history.
This is why the situation with Thor was so profoundly stupid. It was clearly a cheap way to cause controversy and get contradictory pats on the back by tumblr social justice warriors. This also leads back to my point that gender swapping popular characters is mostly a bad move. It doesn’t change what the mantle means it simply just says"we don’t have faith in this new character so we will hijack the popularity of a existing one." I think it was Jackie chan who said he didn’t want to become just another Bruce lee he wanted to be his own thing…and in the end I think that’s a far more productive road to go down.
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PlaceOfEagles:MechWarrior:
Relevant to that, a funny fan thing I found, and I quote:
“
DC: Wonder Woman is too difficult to find a movie audience for-
Marvel: YO YOU LIKE BLACK WIDOW? HERE SHE IS IN THE NEXT CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE WITH A TON OF SCREENTIME AND MAJOR ASS-KICKING SKILLS
DC: We can’t allow the lesbians in Batwoman to get married in the comic, sorry.
Marvel: HEY GUESS WHAT WE’RE GONNA FEATURE A GAY WEDDING ON THE COVER OF AN X-MEN ISSUE
DC: The new direction for storytelling needs to be dark, gritty, mature and cynical.
Marvel: DUDE CHECK IT OUT LOKI GOES SPEED DATING IS THAT NOT THE BEST SHIT EVER
DC: After years of rumors, the Superman/Batman movie is finally coming, but with a new actor and suit for Batman and MAYBE a cameo from Wonder Woman.
Marvel: PHASE 2 MOTHERFUCKERS EVERYONE IS IN EVERYONE’S MOVIE AND THERE AIN’T NO STOPPIN US NOW
DC: We can try to add maybe one or two ‘people of color’ to our lineup…maybe…
Marvel: NEW MS MARVEL THAT’S MUSLIM AMERICAN, BITCHES.
DC: We feel no problem with Batman’s vengeful personality being like wet cardboard.
Marvel: NEW LATINA GHOST RIDER WHO SEEKS VENGEANCE WHILE TAKING HIS SWEET LIL BRO FOR ICE CREAM
DC: We can’t mention any superhero titles in our movies, that’s ridiculous.
Marvel: FUCK YEAH YOU WANT A RACCOON VOICED BY BRADLEY COOPER WITH A GIANT GUN? YOU WANT VIN DIESEL PLAYING A TREE? AMY FUCKING POND PLAYING A SEXY BALD SPACE PIRATE? HERE YOU FUCKERS GO
DC: Our fanbase is mostly white males, I’m sure our focus is-
Marvel: NEW SHE HULK LINE WHERE SHE GOES TO COURT THEN SAVES NEW YORK
DC: Wait-
Marvel: NEW FEMALE THOR
DC: I didn’t-
Marvel: NEW BLACK CAPTAIN AMERICA
Marvel: TAKE ALL THIS COOL SHIT MARVEL BE OUTIE
Marvel: PEACE
”Based Marvel.
To be fair a lot of the decisions marvel has made such as gender swapping existing characters aren’t exactly a step in the right direction.
Care to explain?
Does this really need a explanation?
If the intention is to offer some variety and diversity then simply create new female characters with brand new origins and mythos. I don’t see how robbing existing male characters of their identity and status is helpful or productive. It sends the message that female empowerment is only possible by male disempowerment…not to mention its lazy as shit.
I’m more in favour of being original and showing female characters the respect to get by on their unique stories and development. If I was told by a company like DC to create a popular brand new female character, I wouldn’t just say"lets just make Bruce Wayne a woman"…cause nothing says equality more like just stripping a man of his status and identity and handing it over to a woman.
That’s one way to look at it.
**The other is that a woman is being given the mantle traditionally held by a man - thus it changes what that mantle means. You specifically seeing it as a male’s identity is part of the problem. I don’t read Thor and never have, so I don’t know how it’s the mantle of “Thor” has historically been represented. I’ve always thought of it as a mantle and not specifically an identity. **
As for Marvel females in general, I feel there are plenty of characters who were created w/o being based off or relating to a male in any way. It’s actually faster to name those who were/are.
If you’ve never read any Thor then I have no reason to take any argument you have on this topic seriously.
This is rich, considering that comics have done the whole “person in another body/soul” thing sooooo freakin’ often, and you’re arguing against it on the dumbest possible grounds, as though there isn’t a super easy workaround for the whole “but that’s his birth name” thing.
Is it even confirmed she’ll actually be called “Thor”?
Finally saw it today, damn good movie. I’m not gonna say what Marvel movie it was or wasn’t better than, just that it was a fun and unique quality movie that really deserves the box office success it’s getting.
Great review by i09.
http://io9.com/watching-guardians-of-the-galaxy-is-like-getting-back-p-1614421231
Basically says that the movie is great because of how it brings us back to those classic 70s-80s space operas and how the music grounds everything.
I already mentioned that there’s a lot of intentionally cheesy stuff in this movie — not just the music, but the cliché-ridden storytelling and some of the little character moments. To some extent, the movie gets away with the cheese because of the riotous humor — but also, you sense that the movie 100 percent invests in the cheese, and believes in it. Like Stevie Wonder calling to say he loves you, this movie means it from the bottom of its heart.
PlaceOfEagles:CTG:
PlaceOfEagles:CTG:
PlaceOfEagles:MechWarrior:
Relevant to that, a funny fan thing I found, and I quote:
“
DC: Wonder Woman is too difficult to find a movie audience for-
Marvel: YO YOU LIKE BLACK WIDOW? HERE SHE IS IN THE NEXT CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE WITH A TON OF SCREENTIME AND MAJOR ASS-KICKING SKILLS
DC: We can’t allow the lesbians in Batwoman to get married in the comic, sorry.
Marvel: HEY GUESS WHAT WE’RE GONNA FEATURE A GAY WEDDING ON THE COVER OF AN X-MEN ISSUE
DC: The new direction for storytelling needs to be dark, gritty, mature and cynical.
Marvel: DUDE CHECK IT OUT LOKI GOES SPEED DATING IS THAT NOT THE BEST SHIT EVER
DC: After years of rumors, the Superman/Batman movie is finally coming, but with a new actor and suit for Batman and MAYBE a cameo from Wonder Woman.
Marvel: PHASE 2 MOTHERFUCKERS EVERYONE IS IN EVERYONE’S MOVIE AND THERE AIN’T NO STOPPIN US NOW
DC: We can try to add maybe one or two ‘people of color’ to our lineup…maybe…
Marvel: NEW MS MARVEL THAT’S MUSLIM AMERICAN, BITCHES.
DC: We feel no problem with Batman’s vengeful personality being like wet cardboard.
Marvel: NEW LATINA GHOST RIDER WHO SEEKS VENGEANCE WHILE TAKING HIS SWEET LIL BRO FOR ICE CREAM
DC: We can’t mention any superhero titles in our movies, that’s ridiculous.
Marvel: FUCK YEAH YOU WANT A RACCOON VOICED BY BRADLEY COOPER WITH A GIANT GUN? YOU WANT VIN DIESEL PLAYING A TREE? AMY FUCKING POND PLAYING A SEXY BALD SPACE PIRATE? HERE YOU FUCKERS GO
DC: Our fanbase is mostly white males, I’m sure our focus is-
Marvel: NEW SHE HULK LINE WHERE SHE GOES TO COURT THEN SAVES NEW YORK
DC: Wait-
Marvel: NEW FEMALE THOR
DC: I didn’t-
Marvel: NEW BLACK CAPTAIN AMERICA
Marvel: TAKE ALL THIS COOL SHIT MARVEL BE OUTIE
Marvel: PEACE
”Based Marvel.
To be fair a lot of the decisions marvel has made such as gender swapping existing characters aren’t exactly a step in the right direction.
Care to explain?
Does this really need a explanation?
If the intention is to offer some variety and diversity then simply create new female characters with brand new origins and mythos. I don’t see how robbing existing male characters of their identity and status is helpful or productive. It sends the message that female empowerment is only possible by male disempowerment…not to mention its lazy as shit.
I’m more in favour of being original and showing female characters the respect to get by on their unique stories and development. If I was told by a company like DC to create a popular brand new female character, I wouldn’t just say"lets just make Bruce Wayne a woman"…cause nothing says equality more like just stripping a man of his status and identity and handing it over to a woman.
That’s one way to look at it.
**The other is that a woman is being given the mantle traditionally held by a man - thus it changes what that mantle means. You specifically seeing it as a male’s identity is part of the problem. I don’t read Thor and never have, so I don’t know how it’s the mantle of “Thor” has historically been represented. I’ve always thought of it as a mantle and not specifically an identity. **
As for Marvel females in general, I feel there are plenty of characters who were created w/o being based off or relating to a male in any way. It’s actually faster to name those who were/are.
If you’ve never read any Thor then I have no reason to take any argument you have on this topic seriously.
This is rich, considering that comics have done the whole “person in another body/soul” thing sooooo freakin’ often, and you’re arguing against it on the dumbest possible grounds, as though there isn’t a super easy workaround for the whole “but that’s his birth name” thing.
Thor is his birth name and no amount of mental gymnastics or ignorance will change that. Even when doc ock became the new spiderman he was physically inside the body of Peter Parker which made sense. Unless this female Thor is just Thor with a sex change, it makes no sense for her to have his birth name.
It’s like if every new robin had the name dick greyson…brush up on some logic.
Is it even confirmed she’ll actually be called “Thor”?
She’s not gonna be named Thor, they’ve already mentioned this.
I also hate how they underpowered her and Drax.
Drax hasn’t hasn’t been “superpowered” ever since his rebirth in Annihilation.
The only time he gets really strong is due to an energy field that surrounds him when he gets close to Thanos… which was also a one time deal.
Next time they faced off, it wasn’t there anymore.
Hawkingbird:
Looking back I wish Ronan wasn’t the villain of this movie. They could have used some no-name cosmic villain to fill their need for a generic doomsday villain. Kinda wish the villains were the Magus and the Church of Universal Truth. A religion devoted to serving Thanos
Yeah, they would have made more sense. Or one of his newer henchmen from Infinity.
Magus would need Warlock though. That’s something better saved for later movies.
And if Magus ever gets in, I hope he eventually ends up jobbing to Lord Mar’Vell.
specs:
PlaceOfEagles:CTG:
PlaceOfEagles:CTG:
PlaceOfEagles:MechWarrior:
Relevant to that, a funny fan thing I found, and I quote:
“
DC: Wonder Woman is too difficult to find a movie audience for-
Marvel: YO YOU LIKE BLACK WIDOW? HERE SHE IS IN THE NEXT CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE WITH A TON OF SCREENTIME AND MAJOR ASS-KICKING SKILLS
DC: We can’t allow the lesbians in Batwoman to get married in the comic, sorry.
Marvel: HEY GUESS WHAT WE’RE GONNA FEATURE A GAY WEDDING ON THE COVER OF AN X-MEN ISSUE
DC: The new direction for storytelling needs to be dark, gritty, mature and cynical.
Marvel: DUDE CHECK IT OUT LOKI GOES SPEED DATING IS THAT NOT THE BEST SHIT EVER
DC: After years of rumors, the Superman/Batman movie is finally coming, but with a new actor and suit for Batman and MAYBE a cameo from Wonder Woman.
Marvel: PHASE 2 MOTHERFUCKERS EVERYONE IS IN EVERYONE’S MOVIE AND THERE AIN’T NO STOPPIN US NOW
DC: We can try to add maybe one or two ‘people of color’ to our lineup…maybe…
Marvel: NEW MS MARVEL THAT’S MUSLIM AMERICAN, BITCHES.
DC: We feel no problem with Batman’s vengeful personality being like wet cardboard.
Marvel: NEW LATINA GHOST RIDER WHO SEEKS VENGEANCE WHILE TAKING HIS SWEET LIL BRO FOR ICE CREAM
DC: We can’t mention any superhero titles in our movies, that’s ridiculous.
Marvel: FUCK YEAH YOU WANT A RACCOON VOICED BY BRADLEY COOPER WITH A GIANT GUN? YOU WANT VIN DIESEL PLAYING A TREE? AMY FUCKING POND PLAYING A SEXY BALD SPACE PIRATE? HERE YOU FUCKERS GO
DC: Our fanbase is mostly white males, I’m sure our focus is-
Marvel: NEW SHE HULK LINE WHERE SHE GOES TO COURT THEN SAVES NEW YORK
DC: Wait-
Marvel: NEW FEMALE THOR
DC: I didn’t-
Marvel: NEW BLACK CAPTAIN AMERICA
Marvel: TAKE ALL THIS COOL SHIT MARVEL BE OUTIE
Marvel: PEACE
”Based Marvel.
To be fair a lot of the decisions marvel has made such as gender swapping existing characters aren’t exactly a step in the right direction.
Care to explain?
Does this really need a explanation?
If the intention is to offer some variety and diversity then simply create new female characters with brand new origins and mythos. I don’t see how robbing existing male characters of their identity and status is helpful or productive. It sends the message that female empowerment is only possible by male disempowerment…not to mention its lazy as shit.
I’m more in favour of being original and showing female characters the respect to get by on their unique stories and development. If I was told by a company like DC to create a popular brand new female character, I wouldn’t just say"lets just make Bruce Wayne a woman"…cause nothing says equality more like just stripping a man of his status and identity and handing it over to a woman.
That’s one way to look at it.
**The other is that a woman is being given the mantle traditionally held by a man - thus it changes what that mantle means. You specifically seeing it as a male’s identity is part of the problem. I don’t read Thor and never have, so I don’t know how it’s the mantle of “Thor” has historically been represented. I’ve always thought of it as a mantle and not specifically an identity. **
As for Marvel females in general, I feel there are plenty of characters who were created w/o being based off or relating to a male in any way. It’s actually faster to name those who were/are.
If you’ve never read any Thor then I have no reason to take any argument you have on this topic seriously.
This is rich, considering that comics have done the whole “person in another body/soul” thing sooooo freakin’ often, and you’re arguing against it on the dumbest possible grounds, as though there isn’t a super easy workaround for the whole “but that’s his birth name” thing.
Thor is his birth name and no amount of mental gymnastics or ignorance will change that. Even when doc ock became the new spiderman he was physically inside the body of Peter Parker which made sense. Unless this female Thor is just Thor with a sex change, it makes no sense for her to have his birth name.
It’s like if every new robin had the name dick greyson…brush up on some logic.
Good Christ.
Wasted:
Is it even confirmed she’ll actually be called “Thor”?
She’s not gonna be named Thor, they’ve already mentioned this.
That’s completely wrong. She will be called Thor. That was the main sticking point of the announcement.
the first white guy in history to successfully learn a eminem verse outside of the fuckin hook lol.
HyperGear:
the first white guy in history to successfully learn a eminem verse outside of the fuckin hook lol.
wedabest
I kinda think it would be nice if they got the chick who played Peter’s mother to play Death (with her hair, though).
maxx:
HyperGear:
the first white guy in history to successfully learn a eminem verse outside of the fuckin hook lol.
wedabest
I kinda think it would be nice if they got the chick who played Peter’s mother to play Death (with her hair, though).
nah watch her look like sandman’s death just to troll lol. cause apparently marvel is all about trolling lately.
HyperGear:
the first white guy in history to successfully learn a eminem verse outside of the fuckin hook lol.
Shit I do that shit all day erryday.
saw it, loved groot. especial phoenix down groot. drax was on point. gamora and star lord was meh. ronan shouldnt have died. thanos didnt really impress me much. fail to see why the keep showing the collector…
They didn’t go into Collector’s details enough, he seemed there mainly to explain about the gems (which is something I feel Gamora should have been able to do). Doesn’t meen he was shown too often, or enough, though.
Well school me - what’s his role in all this at this point? He had Adam Warlock’s cocoon it looked like, and he seemed ot be amassing them (infinity gems), though apparently ‘not’ for Thanos, when I read his wiki a while back, I just didn’t grasp his involvement beyond exposition of history (which he did in this one). I doubt they would give him the necessary screen time to truly play the villain…