Zero and Frank work REALLY well together. Doing a long zero bnb gets you to 40-45ish hits solo and you can air tag in frank to get them up to 50 then camera up to level 4 spending no meter. If you want to spend meter, you can do photo, super, dhc into zero’s super for about 950k and you have Frank at level 4 ready to go in after Zero dies.
Also, shopping cart is extremely good with Zero. It has the same effect that the Akuma assist had with Dante where you teleport to one side and the shopping cart pushes them to the other so they have to block 2 mixups per teleport/command dash.
I’ve been using Zero/Frank/Dormammu because dark hole assist hits 10x and allows Frank to take 2 pictures so I can get him straight to level 5 in 1 combo spending no meter and dark hole is really good for lockdown when using Frank. When a new character comes in you can dark hole and roll twice before it ends which is really hard to block. Still trying to figure out other assists that let Frank photo twice.
A lot of TAC combos here. As much as they help Frank lvl up, I wouldn’t really recommend relying on them as bnb’s. I think Frank players are better off doing combos not implementing them too much.
Hey i’m not really a Frank player but I have a really nice way to get Frank to lvl 5 instantly with only 2 bars. Start Dante and do and of his BnBs and end it with million dollars. Mash million dollars then DHC to Trish’s Round Harvest (before the last hit of million dollars if midscreen, after last hit if in corner). Hard tag to Frank then superjump and take a photo.
Dante, Trish, Frank is already a solid team too since shopping cart helps out dante so much.
I dont know if this was mentioned before, but Frank’s camera can interrupt everyone’s moves. HC are stopped using a camera. Even hyper armored normals coughHULKcough are stopped with one use of the camera. It can save u with cross up or instant teleport over heads. Only thing is… the camera has it’s range. Can’t really pull it out full screen. Or randomly taking pictures. lol
Haha, interesting to know, and I gotta agree here. Haggar and Frank work pretty well together. Shopping cart assist is great for Haggar, especially if you know how to do his resets to say fuck damage scaling. Was running Haggar/Trish/Frank against a guy’s (yawn) Wesker/Vergil/Dante team today and came out 9-1 my favor. Trish as second on the team guarantees a lvl 4 Frank with 2 meters anywhere on screen with no TAC… and it’s very easy to get 2 meters with Haggar, especially with resets. I’ll add a short video later.
With Frank first, you can DHC Shopping cart into Trish’s Round trip hyper, raw tag Frank superjump and photo.
With Haggar first you can rapid fire fist to Trish etc. etc.
So far this has been the second character from a game I never played that I just LOVE in this one… Trish and now Frank.
How are you guys treating Frank? Using him on point to get him lvl 5 and then tag him out or putting him as an anchor to make sure you’ll have the shopping cart?
The team I’m trying to use Frank with is Iron Fist and Dante btw.
I use Gravimetric Pulse as an assist because it covers Frank pretty well from full screen, allowing me to chuck projectiles or “undead plasma” while sitting pretty behind the shield. It doesn’t work the greatest against character designed for keepaway, though (Dormammu, Hawkeye, Strange, etc.), but it does well enough.
I use Frank as my second character because Shopping Cart is too nice to help She-Hulk get in. At first opportunity, though, I TAC into Frank to get at least 3 to 5 levels. At that point, my strategy depends upon the matchup and how comfortable I am against the opponent. One of the reasons I prefer to pop X-Factor to kill a character right away is because neither She-Hulk, Level 5 Frank or Nova need XF to come back. On top of that, if She-Hulk is still alive, then I can do corner traps on an incoming character by throwing out a Gravimetric Pulse shield, letting them land, doing She-Hulk’s torpedo and Frank’s overhead at the same time. Voila! Instant unblockable setup.
Nova is usually my anchor in case things go south, though (they kill Shulk too quick for me to TAC or Frank fails to get leveled in time).
I actually changed my team ideal entirely for the sole purpose of emphasizing and empowering Frank, as I find his Level 4 and 5 moveset to be absolutely devastating.
Admittedly, it’s still really rough; I’ve got Chris in there just because I know how to use him better than anyone else (pretty bad synergy so far), and I just recently shoved Dormammu into the mix just so I can use his meteor shower Liberation assist to get Frank to Level 4 instantly by casting it after an air combo and a snapshot to get another snapshot. It usually works really well, but I still don’t know how to use Dorm well at all. Together, the best I’ve had them do with crossover hyper combos is just over a million damage with Level 5 Frank ranking about 560,000 with a typical combo into Survival Tools into Chris’ Sweep Combo into Chaotic Flame. Being relatively new to the scene, I have no idea if that is three meters well-spent.
As a side note, I gave Frank has the shopping cart assist, for from what I’ve seen, it outclasses his other assists by a landslide.
Chris isn’t bad synergy with Frank… I was testing things with them and a THC with frank on point and chris 2nd is kinda like dante. your shopping cart finishes before the sweep combo allowing you to take snap shots. Although remember, in order for sweep combo to come out in THC’s you need Chris’ assist to be boulder punch!
Right now I’m running Vergil/Mel Gibson/Nova or Wesker.
With 2 bars, Vergil can do almost any bnb into his qcf hyper for about 65-70 hits. If you whiff DHC Franks qcb hyper, you can take a picture and be at lvl4. After that, use dive roll and assist mixups to finish the match.
From what I’ve seen so far, Vergil and Nova seem to be the best for getting guarunteed combos into level 4 Frank. DHCing Maximum Vergil or Super Nova into Survival Techniques (whiff), snapshot after a bnb from either of them leads to a leveled up Frank. Nova is especially good, as his BnB builds a whole bar to DHC Frank in and his Super Nova does up to 79 hits by itself, making it pretty reasonable to get Frank to level 8 immediately without a DHC or TAC.
Right now I’m rocking Frank/Ghost Rider/Nemesis. I run Frank on point wit shopping cart, Ghost Rider with Chain of Rebuttal and Nemesis with Rocket Slam. The chain assist can be used for cover pretty well because it’s instant and goes full screen and causes a wall bounce which makes it easy to start off a combo. I also use it to extend combos using the camera similar to Wesker’s gun. Nemesis’s assist i used mostly to extend combos with the ground bounce but i have found some use for it covering me because it has some hefty armor. The shopping cart assist works great with Nemesis because he needs solid cover and both assists work well in that respect. For Ghost Rider, shopping cart also helps with characters trying to get in and you can continue with 5C 5C 623A dash 5C 5C 214A 236A super. The team hyper can doesnt do most hits but it can does a real solid amount of damage. I usually try to get level 3 right away by doing 2C j.B j.B j.H j.S 236S Nemesis Assist 5S j. B j.B. j.H j.S 236S then either use ghost rider’s assist and go for a reset, do the same thing to get level 4, or end it with Survival Techniques and DHC out. I start with 2C because it ducks under some attacks and can be chained into much safter safe moves although it;s initially unsafe.
…I haven’t been able to spend much time w/Ultimate, but I was thinking of a Frank/Ammy/Dorm team. I haven’t found anything just yet that gets to a really high level very easily but they seem to work well enough together. I was considering swapping out Ammy for Nova (w/Nova on point) or Hawkeye since they may be a slightly better fit though. Any thoughts or suggestions?
i would suggest running nova on point if you’re going to play him and use the shopping cart assist for cover. centurian rush assist give pretty good cover from what i can tell and can extend combos giving a wall bounce and using flame carpet or camera to otg will let you extend combos. dark hole can give both nova and frank some solid cover however if you’re trying to extend frank’s combos you wont be able to extend them in the corner. from mid screen you’d do the assist, take a picture then dash afterwards to extend. the biggest problem i see with this team as that the THC doenst leave frank enough time to take a picture afterwards which I feel is really important for him. If you aren’t playing frank on point id suggest using a team that will allow you to do that.
i only messed around with this for a couple minutes and that’s what i gathered.
right now, im running Mel/Ryu/Hawkeye
basic way i lvl up is (hoping they land close to corner so i can relaunch after ryu tatsu assist)
cr.L, cr.M, cr.H, S, j.M, j.M, j.H, qcf+L, j.M, j.S
dash+assist1(ryu tatsu), snapshot
cr.H, S, j.M, j.M, j.H, S, snapshot xx shop cart super DHC ryu tatsu super/hadou super
last time i checked, i got to lvl 4 and i built enough meter to do the dhc plus about half meter. i come back later with dmg.
i usually kill the character because by the time i get in, ive already done damage from snapshot zoning and assists
can someone help me optimize this? ryu as a second is great he does so much damage and his hadous are gatliek
On the subject of landing a grounded RFF, couldn’t you just do Haggar’s ground chain into it? cr.LM f.H qcf+M xx RFF works wonders for landing that raw tagging into Frank.
try this on for size! lol yeah depends on what assists your running.
i suggest you try using hidden missiles while doing cr.H into S and then j.MMHS. when they fall, they should hit your opp. just snapshot, and hopefully have enough time to S and then j.MHS again. call vajra (gram works better) and then snapshot.
now that i think about it, i tried using vajra and the timing is very specific and u have to use a certain combo string. but i wouldnt know too much cus i just dont play strider (dont let the avatar fool you)