Group Photo Ops- The Frank West Team Building Thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
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For mags, you can end your combo with :s: sjc shockwave dhc into whiffed frank qcb :atk::atk: (works anywhere for the most part). If you know how to play mags decently you can usually get Frank to lvl 3 at least with out any assists with this set up (lvl4 - 5 with at least one assist should be cake).

As for wesker, there really is no real reliable way to lvl up Frank with him. Maximum wesker hits too randomly and the soft knockdown does not let you get the pics consistently. His knockdowns and wallbounces does not really give you time to hard tag either. The assist is good for frank though. THC’s vary but since Maximum Wesker stays out so long, you’re stuck with only a few options for character choices to pair up in a team to lvl Frank. .

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Here’s a video of my team’s synergy, the first minute shows some jump loops that I was discussing on the Spencer forums so feel free to ignore that.
Sorry about the low quality. This team is pretty nuts. It might not ToD like a lot of the other teams, but getting to level 4 frank is pretty easy, and when that happens it’s a whole new ball game, so no ToD necessary IMO. Although you still can for characters with around 1mil health for 2 meters, or you can burn 3 meters for sphere flame too.
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Spencer with shopping cart + hidden missiles assist is stifling. And frank gets to level 4 off command throws too obviously.
Most of the Frank lvl 1 stuff is demonstrating what I do when Spencer dies and its just Frank/Doom. (The throw xfc is done with lvl 2 xf).

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Opinions on magneto on point, west and doom?

Some advice?

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Trying to play a team of Hulk/Frank/RR can this team work? How fast can i lvl frank up? Any vids, tips, or forums provided would be a big help.

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I use that team often on ranked and I’m at 4/3rd lord level. Use RR’s spitfire assist it helps Hulk so much at giving pressure, its really good for him. And then when I get 2 meter’s I hard tag in RR and then try to land a single combo into Rock N Roll to DHC it into Frank’s Tools of Survival (it whiffs) and then you take a snapshot to get instant level 4 frank. Just spam a bunch of log traps and once you get a hit you’ve got level 4 Frank. Then just play whoever you want in any order.

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I don’t know if it can help much but Hulk’s Gamma Crush hyper causes a hard knock down at the rising hit portion. So I’m thinking that you could DHC whiff into Tools of Survival.

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Hello =) I just recently dropped everyone I loved and decided to pick up Vergil because he was my first pick before UMvC3 even came out =P I saw a combo with 1 otg assist where you can sword loop twice and then raw tag frank west for level 5 and a 100% on 90% of cast… I like that idea =)… My question to you guys is what do you think about - Vergil(rapid slash), Frank West(shopping cart), Dante(ice crystals). With this team I’d be able to do the level 5 frank off of vergil combo with dante’s assist instead of weskers… and in the rare event that Vergil gets bodied right off the start, I’d still be able to come in, hit them 1 time with frank, and do simple magic series combo into crossover combination with Dante and get level 5 just by taking 2 pictures during dante’s super… correct? Let me know what you guys think…

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Sounds pretty good to me. Dante anchor is pretty scary if you know how to use him well. Vergil and Dante go very well together and this team is probably the most versatile team for frank. The only problem is Vergil in front means he has no meter so he relies pretty much only on Shopping cart to open people up, and I don’t know how potent that is. Other than that, probably on of the better if not best teams for Frank.

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Thanks for the positive input =) I’m pretty confident that Vergil is fine with just Frank West’s assist to back him up, also off 1 touch I can get frank to level 5 and kill anyone with 1 mill or under If I understand correctly ( starting with 1 meter aka match start ) so I’m feelin pretty good about it… plus like I said, assuming they start the game and TOD me - that should build up meter while they pounding my face in, so then frank comes in and I just have to hit them once and then do day 1 bnb into crossover combination for level 5 =)

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Guess I will ask a question here, as perhaps it is more proper to ask here than in the newbies forum at my stage (about 2 months play):

I want to build a team centered on Frank, but I am not sure if he is better first or second. Currently he’s the one character I’ve practised a lot with, though mostly only Level 1 BnB’s, as I don’t seem to hit Level 3 or 4 often enough (I know I need more work).

A few of my choices are:
Wesker - People say he’s easy. I think he’s not quite as easy as people say. I’m trying out his BnB with Cobra Strike and Ghost Butterfly, but can’t seem to land Ghost Butterfly after Cobra Strike/OTG. Everytime I play him I can’t seem to land hits on opponents, or I end up intuitively mashing magic series on Wesker.

Doctor Doom - Nailed down his corner BnB in Vanilla, seems it works fine for Ultimate too, need to get his midscreen working now. I think if I spend enough time to get his combos, he might make a pretty solid anchor. I like his assists but sometimes having trouble picking between A or B assist for one to go well with Frank. Wavedashing Doom with pad is another challenge for the future.

Nova/Sentinel - Two characters categorized as “easy to play”, my problems are mainly with their fly/unfly combo. Supposedly Nova is good for a Frank team, as I can Super Nova and DHC whiff into Survival Techniques, allowing for easy Level 3’s or 4’s. Sentinel has his drones assist.

Nemesis - I think he’s easy to play, and pretty solid. However I am really only effective with him in a corner, and with an OTG assist like Wesker’s gun assist, doing stuff like LMHS j.M j.M j.H j.S land OTG S j.M j.M j.H j.S xx :qcf: Hyper. How would Nemesis fit into a Frank team?

Wolverine - Seems easy enough to play, but like Wesker, have problems hitting opponents who know how to guard. I’ll need to try mixing up with cart/ :qcb: + L. I’m thinking getting good with Wolverine might help with helping me get into Frank’s roll easier, since they both use the same input (Atk + Launcher), and if I can consistently pull off Drill Claws I should be able to pull off rolls too in the future.

If it helps, I play on pad. Therefore…not gonna consider characters like Vergil, Zero, Phoenix Wright (though I’m a Phoenix Wright fanboy), Taskmaster as I haven’t gotten used to doing things like mapping L to my L2 button. Playing against the PC multiple times, I actually prefer having Frank as my first character, and then messing around with my other 2 characters (though I’ve only been playing on Normal, don’t feel I’m ready for Hard yet).

I only get to play Ultimate on weekends when I go back to my own place, and pretty busy during weekdays (I try to put some time into training mode) so I am not in any real rush to become good right now, but I practice on a friend’s Vanilla version when I can because that’s all he has, I am currently living with this friend for 4 months. Would be cool if I can get some team building tips for Frank, cheers!

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Wesker doesn’t have any inherent synergy with Frank, it will just be Wesker doing his own thing, Frank doing his own thing. Unless you pick Wesker’s wall bounce assist or something. Other than that, they don’t have anything to do with each other.

Doom is good with Frank. Any random Doom BNB leads to lvl 4 Frank with a DHC. He’s a pretty execution heavy character and will take some time to get used to. I use Doom with Frank and its a great pair, but Doom is one of my best chars.

Wolverine is decent with Frank. If you look at Noel, he makes it work well. Although he relies pretty much solely on TACs, wolverine opens people up pretty nicely. But if you’re having trouble opening people up, you just gotta give it some time and work on trickier stuff. I think air Fatal claw combo DHC into Frank still gives you level 4 tho, not sure.

Nova is a great pairing, same as doom. BNB leads to lvl 4 Frank. A lot of people pair them up, so I think you have a pretty good idea of their potency.

Sent and Nem I never tried so can’t help you out there.

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super skrull :slight_smile:

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From what I know I only picked up Wesker because of his gun OTG, there’s this Frank Lv1 BnB where it requires 1 Wesker OTG to relaunch and knock back down for an additional 4 hits or so, with those 4 hits being the difference between getting to Level 2 or barely reaching Level 3 on the first snapshot. I also know that from Level 3 onwards, Frank does not really need an OTG assist. From what I read here, and seen from streams before actually deciding to pick up the game, every team literally had an anchor Wesker (even Noel Brown uses Wesker). Not being a tier whore and all, it’s just that it’s true that he’s so effective at what he does, and for little skill (once played an online match, and despite me being the worst player in the world, I managed to kill off 2 characters with Dark Wesker, even though I derped most of the match and lost my first 2 characters without doing anything significant).

I like Doom too. But I thought that Doom would not usually start on point, being usually second or anchor. Though diversity is good. Guess it’s back to the training room with him.

I know about how well Nova pairs with Frank, which is why I considered it. I mean I like Nova, but can’t ever get those fly/unfly combos…

If I’m right, Noel Brown would TAC into Frank, and use the :qcf: L + j.M loop to hit easy Level 3, then DHC back into Wolverine with Berserker Charge, and then hard tag out Wolverine for Frank, and Snapshot -> Survival Techniques once more. Can’t remember if that hits Level 4 or not.I reckon Sent and Nem would be similar, with Nem/Wesker relaunch and TAC, while Sent has his own Rocket Punch OTG -> Plasma Storm, which does a lot of hits, and puts opponent in air for a while, causing Frank’s Survival DHC to whiff and free snapshot (just theorycrafting).

After seeing DJ Huoshen play Skrull I’m pretty inspired to play Skrull too. Guess there’s another character for the training room too.

Thanks for the prompt response!

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pretty much, basically the wolv BNB builds about a meter, then when you TAC, you could try for down or side exchange to build another. I don’t like TAC combos though so I try to do things that don’t involve that if necessary.

Plasma storm doesn’t cause hard knockdown so you can’t level up frank with a DHC, cause the survival tech will whiff. You can do it with Nova and Skrull though if you DHC early from their supers it causes hard knockdown and gives you enough time to snap a pic.

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Frank has a really easy solo level 3 combo, so Wesker OTG to get to level 3 isn’t even necessary. Learning curve for Wesker is pretty low, but you were trying to build a team centered around Frank, and Wesker doesn’t really fit the role.
But hey, to each his own. Just know when you have x/Frank/Wesker, you better have a dam good lvl 1 Frank or else its pretty much gonna be a team of 2, your point character and anchor Wesker, because when your point dies, Frank will have no assist to help get in or level up.

Nova doesn’t need fly unfly, a basic bnb will get you lvl 4.
Doom is good any spot on a team, but best in these orders: 2nd, 1st, anchor.

Sent has no way to DHC, unless maybe if you TK Harddrive and see if you get the last spinning softknockdown hit, then DHC into frank and try to hit them with a knee drop while they are still in the air. Doubt it’ll work but you can try. Sentinel isn’t all that great with Frank, on paper at least.

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If you use felicia’s otg you can use it for combo extension then dhc to kitty helper>hard tag/Snap for a powerup loop (level 4 for 2 meters). Also, off a random cart super, you can DHC to kitty helper and dash up and relaunch into combo or TAC. Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s any way aside from TAC to go back from Felix into Frank tho so it’s not the best synergy in the world. Felicia loves the cart tho.

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If you use felicia’s otg you can use it for combo extension then dhc to kitty helper>hard tag/Snap for a powerup loop (level 4 for 2 meters). Also, off a random cart super, you can DHC to kitty helper and dash up and relaunch into combo or TAC. Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s any way aside from TAC to go back from Felix into Frank tho so it’s not the best synergy in the world. Felicia loves the cart tho.

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tryint to get a new team going in mvc, was thinking dorm or doom, frank, arthur. Any input? I really want frank and arthur, but the third person is up for debate. Dont want crazy execution like zero/dante/vergil, but idk who else to try.

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frank/arthur should work. Arthurs daggers can provide cover for rolls and approaches. Plus I think you can THC with them to level frank up pretty easily since goddess bracelet lasts so long.

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I love Frank and Arthur. Daggers are an invaluable asset, especially in early levels when approaching is almost impossible or you want to camp; and you can DHC from Survival Techniques (likely after a picture) to Gold Armor, then hard tag back to Frank for a picture. Makes for a convenient contingency plan for Level 4 Frank in case your first attempt(s) didn’t go over so well.