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If Goutetsu were in a game, gosh, that’d be cool and his moves?
I think that his level SnH wasn’t that of Gouki’s, for the simple probability that he stuck to the ban and didn’t even learn the SGS (I’ll go into that later). After all SnH is not an absolute but can reach up to the high levels (Like when you finally use SGS).
THe Moves!
If we go by what we hear so often, then it’s Likely Goutetsu’s moves are closer to Gouki’s, since Vanilla HST is a purified, non body destroying versions.
But he gets to choose, which is great! but say he sticks to his own ways where he isn’t like GOuken, then his Shoryuken will be closer to Gouki’s, where he doesn’t mind hitting up from the Navel up to the face, he would have a few types of Hadokens as well, just like Gouki, His Tatsumaki…IDK, I don’t know how it’s purified so he could take either.
Yeah it’s kinda iffy, I really really want to say that he’s going to use Kinjite, Metsu Hadoken and Whatever TMSPK All The Time, because…why not? Right? Of course, seeing as how he had to take time to build up the Metsu Hadoken and got hit by SGS instead means he has to take ime doing it, so whats going to be a faster version…hmmmm
Ok, Ok I’ll stop blabbering and just reply according to how you phrased it…
This will be ingame moves so a lot of other factors have to be considered
Yes, he would have the Gou Hadouken instead. His Shoryuken will be similar to Gou Shoryuken because that’s the only way Capcom can pull off a Kinjite Shoryuken as a regular move. His Tatsumaki will be closer to Gouki’s version too, except taht him having Gou rasen isn’t a problem as well.
Which is stronger? Gou Hadouken or Hadouken or Metsu Hadoken? For an SnH Practitioner, and to end the fight quicker for the least amount of affort, Gou hadouken for a quick one, Metsu Hadoken for a Super one, due to his ability to enter SnH mode. It’s any of these are stronger I’m comparing Output vs Effort.
Again, there’s absolutely no reason in story if he were to use the Kinjite all the time, but for game purposes, making Kinjite do little damage is insulting to it’s reputation, so he’ll have to stick to Gou SRK for any combo versions. He CAN however keep the Kinjite as a regular move provided that
- It doesn’t combo into
- If it hits an Airborne opponent, it will just graze just like the other shoryukens, for minimal damage.
How Capcom can do this, is to process his Shoryuken movements so that if you press the button and release, Gou SRK comes out. If you hold on to it a while longer it becomes a half strength Kinjite.
It’s only fair it comes out later because if it requires extra effort, then he would need to gather enough Ki to do it properly, but since he’s not using up a Super bar, it would be explained ingame as having a slight moment store up power for it.
THe only difference between the two can’t be seen ingame, they do things to damage you, but the lasting effects are different, Kinjite and Gou are supposed to damage you internally, thus the multiple hits to damage your internals, normal Shoryuken just wants to knock you out with one Blow of Ki from the fist. Hmmm,RYu’s Metsu SRK, I have to go look more into that, interesting Dodge move…
I always thought Gouki’s version is the Gou version. Gou Rasen is Gouken’s own move. after all, he did teach Ken and Ryu the Normal Horizontal tatsumaki right? I think They gave him this move to show why Ken developed it into his Super later on. I don’t know if it’s supposed to be more lethal.
Hmmm, you figured right, Goutetsu ; did he know how to do it, I don’t know. He knew about it, sure. He knew how to do it, I don’t know.
If he knew how to do it, did he ever do it? Looking at everything, probably not.
I’ve always been wary of using the word “Tap” when it comes to SnH. I think that it does make it seem like SnH is just a source of power you can make use of, and tends to mislead people into thinking that SnH is an absolute…
Look at it this way…In the SF world, there are three types of SnH users. The ones who have not used SGS, and have not reached that level of utilising SNH, during fights, they can go into varying degrees of succumbing to SnH to use all the moves like Hadoken, SRK, and TMSPK, these are the ones who go into it but don’t go too deep for fear that they lose themselves.
Then there are those who use the SGS, and failed, and SnH takes over them permanently but they also have the uncontrollable urge to kill. permanently, which in turn forces those around them to kill these unfortunates.
And then there are those like Gouki, he’s definitely not the first person to get to this state, but it is extreme in that he can be himself after doing his first SGS, meaning that he can freely do anything without limitations from then on.
Goutetsu, is the first type. He can freely utilise SnH as long as it is for moves that don’t require you to go into the deep end. So to answer you, how it affects his moves is that they can all be the Gou version, anytime. He can do everything Gouki does, except for moves like SGS. Unfortunately this also means that looking at things, he’s actually weaker than Gouki in many aspects by now.
Do you think there are any redeeming qualities to Goutetsu if he’s ingame? Gouken has gone Mu, Gouki has gone SnH, Goutetsu? Vast experience and passed down teaching from his peers? A better ability to fight other SnH users? What both Gouken and Gouki don’t have is that they’ve never really fought other SnH users regularly before, so their defense against them are not so up to par, GOutetsu may have had this priviledge, so ingame, he would have moves that could actually be technically used to beat Gouki up bad, while keeping to his Hadoken, Shoryuken and Tatsumaki roots.
His Supers can also be the Normal strength Kinjite, probably even stronger ingame damage wise than Gouken’s because Gouken probably doesn’t want to put in his Ki behind every blow, but Goutetsu doesn’t have this limitation.
And WHY doesn’t Gouki ever use it? I wish he sorta had it you know…or is his Multiple Hitting Super move already his own improved variation of it? Maybe thats when you said he improved on it huh?
It’s very possible in the SF world now to have other fighters Using SnH that isn’t embroiled in the Current drama. Just like Gouki, they simply don’t care about tournaments (THat’s how you can also have new characters every new game, there’s always someone who didn’t care about the previous tournaments, or wasn’t related to the story).
If someone else came along and could do SGS, it would be a pleasant surprise but not a shock. Whatcha think?
