GOUKEN DOES THE SHUN GOKU SATSU, and how this Comic can show us some stuff
Some of you who have read Ryu Final (Japanese version) by Masahiko Nakahira already know this, and I don’t know how accurately the English one is going to be translated (And I’m deathly afraid that it’s by someone who hasn’t fully understood the japanese one). If any of you have the English one, pleasepleaseplease tell me how they ended up translating it!
But for those who haven’t read it, It’s a good topic for discussion that Gouken does the SGS on Gouki.
The ultimate reason for typing this is to clear up the notion that the last move of the SGS is a thrust through the Chest. It’s not. I realised there are people outside of SRK forums who have read this who just skimmed through and have not really read / understood the words, and took the pictures as it is.
SPOILERS
In the middle of Ryu Final Vol. 2, it shows Gouki fighting Gouken, with Ken and Ryu watching.
After a brief fight, Gouken is being beaten badly, and he decides to Grab Gouki.
This is when Ryu and Ken notices their master’s Ki going Upupupupupup and they start to shout “Master…No!!!”
And then it is explained that he was willing to give up his own life to do the one move that only those who have mastery over SnH would do…
Shun Goku Satsu
He failed however, and got killed by Gouki by a thrust through his chest.
SPOILERS 2
In the final parts of Vol 2. Gouki beats Ryu up, then tells him that he’s going to do the SGS on him, try and break it.
So Ryu goes into a Pose and says “Come!”
, and GOuki does the Shun Goku Satsu on Ryu, and Ryu is observing what is happening.
And in story it is explained that the Shun Goku Satsu are series of Hadokens released into the Body.
And then after Ryu’s observation (while he’s getting beaten up), Gouki asks
“So, have you found a way to break this move?”
And Ryu realises, and Steps Forward forcefully so that Gouki’s hand goes through him and miss the burst of Hadoken.
And Gouki congratulates him.
And says that by Ryu advancing toward him he has caused Gouki’s hand to go through Ryu’s body and miss the Hadoken.
And then, he grabs Ryu’s Left hand with his own right hand, and tells him that it is a good time to counter attack.
And Ryu does so with a Hadoken into Gouki’s body.
I hope this clears up some non- canon stuff.
It’s interesting stuff to note ;
- Gouken can do the Shun Goku Satsu
- SGS is not just Blows of Ki into the Body, the author goes as far as to say it’s actually Hadokens into the body!
- When Gouki thrusts his hand through Gouken, it wasn’t SGS.
- When Gouki thrusts his hand through Ryu, it was a missed move because he didn’t want his hand to go through, Ryu did it to counter him).
For the purposes of out uncanon knowledge of SGS, it seems that although SGS is a banned move, it’s not a complicated one, it’s just releasing burst after burst of Hadoken into your opponents body to completely destroy his body. If it was so easily explained like that, then this move really isn’t that hard to understand to perform in theory at all, which isn’t surprising if Gouken and Goutetsu actually knew about “how” to do it. It’s just that they never attempted it.
No talk about pressure points because seriously, if you’re releasing bursts of hadokens into your opponents torso, seriously people, he’s going to be SO heavily injured, it’s a miracle if he doesn’t die on the spot from a full barrage.
Now for uncanon purposes, can we connect this back to the time when Gouki came back from training to kill Goutetsu with the SGS?
Yes we can, if the SGS was known to be a move like this, then it really only takes determination to reach that intensity of SnH and perform this move with some imagination of your own. Theres no real complicated theory behind the move because it’s just;
Hit your opponent very very fast with a barrage of punches that transmit Ki, which would translate to Hadokens because that’s how SnH users translate Ki into, into his body to destroy him internally.
Gouken
And would it be surprising then that Gouken could do it without having to train to do it? Not really if they knew the underlying principle behind the move. It’s just that , you’d probably risk your own life from doing it.
SnH Ryu
And Would it be surprising if SnH Ryu in SFZ Ryu the Manga could do it? Well personally yes, because I don’t know if Gouken ever described it to him. And he did it TWICE.
Perhaps it’s just the natural instinct from a berserk warrior, because really, the most straightforward way to kill would be Just that,
BEATBEATBEATBEATBEATBEATBEATBEATBEATBEATBEATBEAT
Yo Ultima…Ultima you there?
In Ryu Final, seems like Gouken knows, so we can surmise that Goutetsu does know but hasn’t done it. At least, in Ryu Final.
could be. I thought Gouken fell down the water fall pre-SFA and has been Shin-SRKing the waterfall since SF2 after seeing Ryu do it in WW :looney: