Vega is going to beast mode. That is all.
All I can say is that if that video is an accurate representation of his changes he got nothing outside of EX tatsu hitting low.
In that vid you basically have to be point blank for the c.mp to combo into fireball and lp palm still has worthless range. I’m not sure why a measly 90 damage move that is -4 on block can’t get some range so that it actually combos off of stuff.
I just had the chance to watch that mod vid. And yes, if this is really an acurate representation of the cr.mp x LP hado range, then, sadly, this will not be enough. Same for LP rush punch, as if whiffed highly punishable. Hopefully they did more to the moves, that the vid missed out (pushback or something).
After this weekend we will know more…
This was what I was trying to get at in the Environment Thread.
I don’t know how the feedback works at the loc tests… but I think it would help if we all had similar feedback.
And I think lp palm having 0 movement is something that we all can agree that needs to be changed.
Lp Palm does serve a purpose right now.
Jump-in, CS.MK > Lp. Palm is Gouken’s only true block string.
It’s a good move as is.
The -40 stun on DF Throw has me scratching my head.
Why nerf his Denjin game?
I remember when they nerfed the shit out of Kongo, I was like "They won’t do that, Kongo isn’t that good."
Wham.
All of a sudden Makoto became one of Gouken’s toughest matchups.
Funny you mentioned our stun nerf and Makoto on the same post. She already has like the higher stun output in the game and actually got stun buffs! WTF?!!
LP palm is -4 on block. Process that.
An airtight block string is any series of attacks that a person, that once blocking, can let go of his controller and continue to block. I will leave it to say that what you listed is not his only “true” airtight blockstring.
Everything serves “a purpose” the question is, how situational/useful is it? Can it be made more useful and less situational without making the character OP.
It’s difficult to punish Gouken in those 4 frames because he is so far away after the blocked palm.
I believe Guile’s blade kick wiffs at that distance on reversal.
This frame advantage buff to C.MP might make C.MP > MP. Palm work from any distance.
That’s a guaranteed FADC > Denjin on everyone but Chun Li.
First footage of Ultra Gouken:
Looking like king blacktoof’s mod was pretty accurate for the most part.
Lol, sick reaction to Abel’s wheel kick at the beginning of round 2!
How did you get a 4 hit combo starting from cr.lp, if it´s +3 and far lk is 4f startup? I mean, how did the special come out if it can´t be linked? Is my data wrong?
He amended that that was an error, he forgot about chaining. Also far LK is 6f startup 
Oh ok. Crap.
Not a hitconfirm, even if it is sped up to 4f.
Ask for a higher hitstun on cr.lp (+5 on hit) to go with that would be too much?
No, this would open up the full spectrum on hit confirms into other medium moves and would give him the light > light > medium xx special
The only way would be to make far.lk a 3 frame move … which would be much too strong OR it would be possible to make the far.lk special chancel in a chain … which btw E. Ryu has already … as the only char in the game … so it is already in the engine … !!!
I would love this !!!
What? This is new to me… Can he special cancel every chain?
It’s not difficult. Guile can punish easy with blade kick, Ryu can HP SRK. If you really think it is that safe you need to hit training mode a bit more. Minus 4. SRK fadc Ultra. The move is near useless. It combos off a cl.st.mk, and you can use it for corner combos. That’s it. There won’t be much more use come Ultra if they leave it as is.
st.mp is +5 on hit, it needs its own unique version of mp palm to combo (from what I have been told). So no, +3 is not going to combo from anywhere.
I really just don’t understand what Capcom is doing with him.
He can only special cancel his st.lk … and it doesnt matter what chain he used before.
That sounds less intentional and more like an error like our shortcut bug, a line left in that shouldn’t have been.