Whats the input for slide karas? Never been able to understand the slide kara stuff.
its just a fancy phrase for max input delay basically. All you do is regular kara fb, but on the f,d,f part you HOLD forward,essentially making Gouken walk forward and chucking. The length of time you can hold forward is pretty good. Now the fun part is seeing how lenient the input window is and all the variations within with the mk and hk kara distances along with it.
walking fb’s are easy too.
max input delay also changes fwd distance on tatsus, gflip, normals…ultras
Well seems vanilla Gouken is back for anyone wanting that backthrow ultra damage, overhead divekick and shortcut bug on all 6 normals :3
huh? new changes posted?
USFIV allows you to select different versions of a character. You can select Vanilla*, Super, AE, AE2012, or Ultra.
*I hate that term
This is going to be more work now… shit.
Well… which would you hover towards? Vanilla? Ultra? I think I’d stick with Ultra. AE changes were primarily all buffs; 3fr cl.mk, more +frames on cl.mp and cl.hk, EX tatsu locks, quicker LP Palm, etc… 2012 changes were also primarily buffs; speed variable and damage buff on Denjin, 3fr super, +1 more frame of advantage on cl.mp. He never had any of this in Vanilla.
That all said, would you give that all up for un-scaled backthrow Shin Sho + whatever else Vanilla Gouken had I’m unaware of?
I must admit that I prefer strawberry myself. or some banana. But nothing gets the point quite as clear as vanilla. Though uh, I must admit I dislike when people say Vanilla Yun instead of just AE Yun :3
Velociraptor made Ultra Gouken look pretty good when beat LPN. LPN was using Vanilla Bison and Vanilla Akuma.
BTW found a full list of changes from each version of SF on Gouken: http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Changelist_StreetFighterIV#Gouken
There’s little doubt that Ultra G is probably the best as he has the most tools. Though, early life, everyone gonna get hit by demonflip divekick again, not to mention that Vanilla damage. Downside is(though also a benefit) is the return of kick counter and its overlap with tatsu+ shortcut bug making ex tatsu less reliable(not to mention no more vacuum on it).
I’m praying to god that this is a separate mode, and that when I play ranked I’m playing vs. Ultra opponents.
They just confirmed it’s offline only. Which is a pity, I would have liked online to have an option labeled edition select.
It’s like they don’t understand how big and spread apart the rest of the world is. For anybody who doesn’t live in a big city in america, this feature may as well not exist.
vanilla yun was the best yun, because that bullshit character didn’t fucking exist.
They are still working on it, I’m sure they will get to hear people want to have the option to look for edition matches. Just have it be one of the options in match search(and have quick matches have it set to off or something)
hahahahahahahaha yo IAM…iiiiiiitsbackkkk!..not sure if anyone’s hype…lol. vanilla dive kick in gflippin gouken…w stronger fbs and hi lo Kongo cancel
Yeah, but I’m glad it’s offline only… though I would not mind a separate mode for it… or maybe set an option in endless where it could be activated by the host.
Man, the new ex tatsu is the best tool ever but demon flip was a real move in vanilla.
Has anyone done any theory crafting on how we will be able to deal with the new delayed wake up mechanic? Like after sweep, do we know how much longer they can delay their get up and if it gives us enough time to do another LK G-flip into potential cross up?
Obviously it will be amazing for us on defense. Justin Wong theorized it will turn the game into more of a defensive game since it nerfs all vortex characters… (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/nov/27/justin-wong-delayed-wake-usf4-very-cheap-it-will-hurt-current-flowchart-knockdown-jwong-gives-thoughts-new-game-mechanics/)
Delayed wakeup is only 11f. So if Dive whiffs and you were low maybe add a frame or 2 and 4 for landing, you don’t have a lot of frames to work with. Though in edition select, only the ultra cast will have it :3
I am very curious how that will intereact with each other. I know vanilas can unblockable ultra each other, but I wonder if Ultra cast could do it(the unblockable is something done to ones blocking, who knows :3)