Yo but guys she lost 10 damage on some of her moves.
Okay, so Denjin is great and all. I’m having a blast using it… but if
EX Palm > Denjin
comes out as
EX Palm > EX Gouken Flip
ONE MORE FUCKING TIME…
Backthrow
"awesome backthrow to ultra for the win"
ex palm comes out and wiffs
"sigh"
I swear I thought it was just me.
When I FADC EX palm it turns into flip instead of Denjin so often.
Even if I look at the inputs I can do the perfect short cut of :d::df::d::df::f: :3k: and it comes out flip.
It is easy fix, just do:
:db::d::df::f::d::df::f: :3k:
Instead, ultra come out everytime.
Same, just AA FB>Denjin ends up as AA FB>EX Flip
Just remember that Denjin is probably the only Ultra that doesn’t come out with negative edge, so you need to be on fckin point.
I know that everyone is a happy panda right now with the changes but I have to say that being old, the re-learning your character and your BnBs and go-to situational stuff is bothering me. I am a bit frustrated that Denjin has been a distant second ultra and now it is so good that I have to change my approach and re-learn match ups. Don’t get me wrong, I like the direction they went (mostly) but I am just getting tired of spending hour upon hour learning how to do new things, months learning when, months actually improving, then having to change. Case in point: Kongo. I’ve all but abandoned that move against a lot of the cast unless it’s a guaranteed hit. Now, I want to use the better hitboxes so I have to retrain my brain to accept that kongo is usable again. This slows me down under pressure.
Ah, well. There are far worse things to be frustrated about than “my character just got better so I have to learn how”…lol.
there have been a lot of back-and-forths, yeah…
I still input a forward before an EX Tatsu :rolleyes:
I see what you mean, it took me a full day to start getting used to doing mp fbs into mp palm, but it’s paying off very quickly.
I went from 2.2k PP to 3.3k by just rushing down more and dizzying up people non-stop.
Dear god, the mp palm helps so much on hit confirms. So much stun, so much damage, so many opportunities to link into ultra. I pulled so many comebacks by stunning people with it that it felt dirty, filthy like a pig, but at the same time tasty like bacon.
but oh wait, this is the frustration thread.
God, I hate goukens crouch tech.
Why? I loves me that :d::lp::lk::mk: <3
:d::lp::lk: is pretty bad though I admit.
If we were strong against throws we would be god :3
Gouken techs… cr. lk activates he gets thrown.
My problem is I press down/back, so I’m getting his slow tech/cr. mk.
I hate that they nerfed Gouken’s kongo’s. Yeah it’s old I know. Less damage and more guess work. Were they too good or something? Eh, whatever. I don’t really have much else to complain about. He has legitimate weaknesses now as well as legitimate strengths, but it’s stupid shit like the ratarded three-way Kongo and nerfed damage that makes me mad.
Yea trust me i know man. Yea its old news but its still bullshit! Making the hitboxes larger for AE 2012 helped konging ground moves better but when it comes to jump ins we have the same fucking problems. Pretty much for jump ins we need to only use EX kongo or just block lol.
Also, Viper is such a bullshit character and i wish she was taken out the game lol. Although we can safe jump her and OS her pretty well though. Shes still bullshit. So is rufus and cammy!
My bad on putting up the input, I meant :db::lp::lk::mk:
Just block. Or EX Tatsu. Or LK Tatsu. Or :db::hp:. Or:db: :mk:. Or close :hk:.(sorry for the semantics thing, sometimes I’m a dick)
I want more bullshit characters in the game to be honest, heck I want gouken to BE a bullshit character :3 The BS characters tend to be the most entertaining matchups in the game(except Blanka and Fuerte, please both go die in a fire). I LOVE fighting Vipers and suddenly realise it’s been ages since I fought Latif, I want to kick his ass and him beat mine again <3 (truth told I want to fight him in non laggy circumstances, US vs EU connection isn’t forgiving 
)
Rufus is pretty fun too, our :mk: OS tech is great vs his low dives, though ofcourse beware counterhits. I love his huge hitbox vs our :mp: hadou in all the fun ways. Cammy was way harsh before, not easy now, but much easier than it’s been. I admit I don’t enjoy the match like I do Viper or Rufus, but I don’t hate it like I did in Super. Still though I never want a character removed from a game for having such a radical unusual way of play. The more playstyles the merrier.
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Thing is I can beat both just fine, but gods do I not enjoy it for a moment. I could double perfect one and I’ll still be miserable after. Then online ones come into play …
**Your very weird lol. How the fucking hell can you have fun fighting VIPER and rufus! So you love dive kick spam and Bullshit ass burn kick cross up madness 50/50 mixup hell lol. Heck id rather deal with Fuerte and blanka then viper lol. **
But whatever they are legit characters in the game and we have to deal with them. Im done complaining…