Looks like even the Gouken forum isn’t immune to the new influx of theoryfighters that started showing up with Super. Evidently this isn’t Street Fighter but Parappa the Rapper: YOU GOTTA BELIEVE! Even if it means spouting gibberish to people who’ve played the char since vanilla!
Gouken forum is mostly theory fighters, hopeless romantics of what the old man could be like if his true potential was somehow unleashed. a lot of us don’t think he’s very competitive, but we play him cuz we like playing/ he’s fun and different and we think their may be some parts of his game to exploit. Most people who are more concerned with winning have moved on to the more competitive characters months ago, this forum is mostly dead. Just cynics, hopeless romantics, and those who just enjoy playing the character.
I’d have to agree. Since everyone is pussing out from a friendly tourney. I may just make it an all character tourney. And then those that hate on him can get schooled by us real heads.
I’d join but I’m on psn, though I can understand the apprehensiveness to play. I’m not a fan of gouken mirror matches.
I suppose so. but I normally do he’s EX GG at point blank with an EX. That shit is hard to stop, b/c he’s invincible until on start up and he can hit you in the front or cross you up that’s a damn good 50/50.
You guys are basically telling me that his Vortex is useless, I think it’s his biggest tool.
Bison can get away, but he can’t do shit if I safe jumped him… what is he gonna do ? Wake up Ultra to get blocked and punished? LOL EX Scissor is blocked, Head Stomp is blocked (and he can eat a free st. cl hk on his way down > Meaty Denjin??? If he’s close to stun, why the hell not), Both Ultras are blocked, jump out is stuffed, any normal is stuffed, and telport can be option selected with lp hado.
He has no choice but to block on his wake up or he will get punished.
Now that I’ve conditioned him for this, my GF loop doesn’t look to bad at all, in fact… it can be free lunch. Damn I love the Vortex.
No Theory Fighter over here son… I’m an OG.
The difference being there’s always been more to you than this weak “it’s up to us to imagine his potential!” bullshit that sounds like it was lifted from a self-help book. Listen to this tool actually refer to himself as a “real head”.
OK, son. You do that. Go show the world Gouken’s god tier. And bring your huggybear friends with you so we can be spared having to sift through endless garbage in every goddamned char forum to get to discussion by people who’ve actually, you know, played the game.
Never said Gouken is God Tier. I am just saying his playable and if I would rank him he’d be B or B+ depending on your skill level or understanding with him. Does he has flaws- Yes, in fact there are a lot of things I’ve express my pov, why doesn’t he have links? Why doesn’t GF hit overhead (I know the answer to that, then he’d have 3 over head attacks).
FTI 1- If you tried safe jumping Bison with dive kick, you’d agree with what I said. Until then STFU. I call myself an OG b/c I’ve been playing this shit since Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis and NOT since Xbox and PS3.
If you can’t be positive then just don’t say shit.
FYI- this is the only character thread I post in, Gouken is the only character I use, and I’m only an internet connection away if you’d like to try and teach me a lesson or two.
Time better spent telling you to re-read the last few posts, ace.
I’m logged on XBL right now… what are you waiting for?
He has a point though, the time you spend crying in the forums can be better spent improving your personal technique and trying to figure out new combos and techniques for your character.
What in the sam hell are you talking about? How about YOU go practice… is that the best shit you can say to me you troll?
Please refer to page 1: The intent of this thread was to vent our issues and to try to find solutions to our problems vs. spatting it all over the place, or did you join in a bit late. If you look through the entire thing you will see frustrations and a few post’s later you will find a solution for it, and like many of you I’ve played him since Vanilla.
I’ve always been critical of Gouken but I’ve also been very defensive of Gouken b/c I think he is a character that requires a lot of patience, knowledge, and skill to master (if one BELIEVES that a character can be mastered), and I do think there is a lot to explore with him considering I keep improving and I keep learning. My goal isn’t to face Justin Wong or Diago, my goal is just to have the best Gouken I can have and to keep improving my game. If you still feel Gouken sucks, then so be it. Go express that in another thread and talk about all of the ways you can destroy him.
I don’t understand the reason why anyone would come to the Gouken forum to try to convince the Gouken players that he’s not suitable. There are several players here that do very well with Gouken. I’m not saying he’s going around and winning every tournament and all, I’m just saying it’s fun to use him and he has potential for those who really want to use him. If you believe otherwise that is YOUR opinion, I have no problem with that. In fact, I wouldn’t care if 90% of the people who play him just abandon him all together that means he’ll be seen that much less.
Nothing at all, what are you talking about?
It doesn’t matter at this point. It’ll probably be better off letting you guys eat baby food and stick to the theories that Gouken is helpless and hopeless.
Er… I was agreeing with you.
Biggest thing I have issues with, actually. I really wish they gave at least air parry instant recovery, as EX DF with the express intention of escaping wake up games was something I used a lot. In a nutshell, the DF nerfs (kick and throw recovery) are what caused me to go play other characters.
Hey, hey, hey…not all of us.
That would be me. I do enjoy him, for most match-ups anyway. (I’d rather lose a close enjoyable offensive game than kill a T. Hawk with pure zoning.)
I really liked this article, which was on the front page of SRK a few days ago: http://sonichurricane.com/?p=2930
Basically the gist is that the vast majority of the roster is not suitable for top level tournament play. That doesn’t mean the character can’t be fun to play and reasonably competitive for the other 99% of us.
amen
My bad homie… these shit heads are getting on my nerves coming in here talking that jive and they have no clue.
Yes, because as you’ve proven so far the problem is clearly not your catastrophic failure to read. No one was attacking YOU, dipshit.
This was sent directly to me from you, if that’s not an attack I’d hate to see what your definition of one is.
You are a damn idiot, I’m convinced.
I’m really going to have to walk you through this, aren’t i?
Alright, billy, where’s the previous mention of “real heads” before that post? Because i know hitting ctrl-f is SOOOOO hard. As is actually reading three whole posts above the one you just quoted. YOU SPEAKEE THE ENGLISH?