I would’ve thought this would be common sense in these forums by now. Maybe not.
To new Gouken users I can understand that they may not know about it b/c they didn’t discover it yet, or they didn’t bother to read the nonsense we post here, either that or they are trolling.
I don’t think the safe jump thread is stickied yet. It should be, then the reply could always be read the sticky, It’s getting pretty old at this point tho. IMO
On some characters I think you can do cr.hp xx lp hado -> cr.hp xx palm in the corner. Might have to do mp palm to get it to combo.
so has anyone have the timing down for ex-palm to denjin 5hit charge? i cant get it consistently. I’ve got down when i need to throw denjin, but when holding the charge i cant get it all the time. Ive been testing the charge times, but if anyone has any tips for what to look out for so i know i have my charge for 5hits that would be great. currently im counting 1-one thousand all the way to 3 and im having mixed results or i wait till it zooms out from gouken and release, but again mixed results.
Is it char spec.?
idk, i just found out about it yesterday when i was in training mode. I just assumed that someone here would have already known about it.
Surprising to see what people think they know here.
cr mp doesnt combo from st lk does it?
same with cr mp xx lp fb?
no to both =(
counterhit cr mp can combo into lp fireball though
funny, then how come i see so many cr mp xx fb as a blockstring?
cant reversals in general just beat you out of that? i’ve seen people who wait for that and pump a reversal out
Because you have ~1 frame to input the reversal if that and the fireball will beat a counter poke. It’s safe to do.
Uh you have like 4-ish frames at least between the cr.mp and the fireball on block.
You can reversal out of it yeah but that’s pretty risky.
Hmm, it doesn’t seem like 4 frames, but looking at the frame data I am definitely wrong. I personally haven’t had anyone reversal out of it.
On block you can reversal ryus c.lk hado as well - it can be reversalled but you can also train that into your opponent and bait - frame traps have the illusion of safety but also have a lot of spots where you can add some cute mixups
I’m assuming you mean cr.mk xx hado.
No you cannot reversal that always. It depends on spacing and what version fireball they use. Ryu’s hadouken is really damn fast.
Is it possible to cancel Kongo into Denjin? I’m pretty sure I saw this last night but the Gouken player said he was just mashing at the time. Is it a normal armour cancel (like Rog’s EX Dash into Ultra) or is it more lenient?
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Yep, it’s an armour cancel.
i don’t know if this has been discussed, but it is possible to get complete EX Palm, dash-HK Tatsu on characters where it usually hits only once (like T-Hawk) you just have to take notice of how close the second Palm hit was to your arm, if the characters body is still within your arm you can complete it, if he’s outside you’ll only get 1 hit, there are guys of course who the combo doesn’t work on at all (Adon) because of their falling animation…i haven’t tested with everybody but that’s pretty much it, & you have ample time to confirm the spacing to choose if you wanna follow up with Palm or Tatsu
another thing, s.FP, FP Palm doesn’t work on Guile most of the time due to his wonky hit animation, so if you’ve ever been in a fight & thought you missed that combo cause you did it slowly you’re wrong. use MP Palm on Guile
haven’t tested all characters for either of these
Like Zuranthus’ post, I think we need to setup a wiki page of sorts for BnBs for all characters for:
- EX palm, dash, U1 (multi or not)
- EX palm, dash, HK tatsu – who does/doesn’t get all hits from normal timing (Elf won’t, for sure)
- Corner only combos for tall chars and rest. Ex: s.HP, LP hado, c.HP, LP palm (can’t seem to get EX palm to land) against Gief and probably more tall chars.
A lot of that information was compiled for Vanilla. If you look around you’ll find it eventually. Just need the info for the 10 new characters.
i had a mad moment the other night, mashed the shit out of a kongo fadc shin shoryuken, and it came out instantly, no fadc, no kongo then ultra, just instantaneously much like a kongo to super, only to shin… wtf?