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A lot of what you say is true, but you give Japan too much credit.

I first began dabbling in fighters seriously when I visited Japan, alongside the release of CvS2 which became my first experience in tourneys.

“It appears there are no scrubs in Japan”. There are plenty of scrubs in Japan, their scrubs are just better than ours. Its like trolls on SRK and trolls that can spell on SRK; one is slightly more refined than the other but in the end they are still trolls.

I learned along a slew of other new, budding japanese players and yes, they learn defense well. But it would be more correct to say they learn the basics and building blocks of the fighters they play well, and then they grow upon those fundamentals so their more advanced strategies are that much stronger.

Also, its a given arcades still actually exist over there, unlike here where they are little more than myth. So of course, they have more experience, bigger scenes and easier time polishing their mistakes.

As a player you need to work on your patience then. There are a lot of factors that make someone a good player. Simply knowing combos and moves won’t make you decent. Not that I’m the best person to give advice on that. But at the very least I really never take the focus off the game. And if someone is turtling me, then I just sit back and turtle them. Just to see how long they can sit there and do nothing. I believe that the final aspect of getting good at anything is learning the psychology. If someone turtles you and you get frustrated, they are simply better because they have a psychological advantage over you. And at this point you pretty much lost before you started, because you beat yourself.

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A lot of what you say is true, but you give Japan too much credit.

I first began dabbling in fighters seriously when I visited Japan, alongside the release of CvS2 which became my first experience in tourneys.

“It appears there are no scrubs in Japan”. There are plenty of scrubs in Japan, their scrubs are just better than ours. Its like trolls on SRK and trolls that can spell on SRK; one is slightly more refined than the other but in the end they are still trolls.

I learned along a slew of other new, budding japanese players and yes, they learn defense well. But it would be more correct to say they learn the basics and building blocks of the fighters they play well, and then they grow upon those fundamentals so their more advanced strategies are that much stronger.

Also, its a given arcades still actually exist over there, unlike here where they are little more than myth. So of course, they have more experience, bigger scenes and easier time polishing their mistakes.


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Interesting. It would have been nice if back in the days when the US had an arcade scene to see if we would have beat Japan. Back in the mid 90s when Tomo was dominating, Kuni who lived in Japan said Tomo could possibly beat their best. However, keep in mind Tomo dominated the tourney scene during a time when Guile was still quite a dominate play in Street Fighter. So I would think that Tomo playstyle was built more around defense as well. There are no vids of the guy playing or anything like that. So it’s really hard to say how good he was. However Jeff Schaefer and Mike Watson both played with him, and people say that their Guile playstyle most closely resembles Tomo. Still would be nice to know, too bad we never will. However, being nearly 30 now, I was around back when SF first started up. Back in the days we did learn about normals first (simply because no one could do specials back then). And then once we learned normals, we learned a more defensive playstyle. However when people started learning combos, offense became the trademark American style.

And I still do believe that Americans are more inspired by defense. If you were to get the average American into Street Fighter, whose video would you show? Would you show them vids of Poongko with an aggressive Ryu? Or would you show them vids of a more methodical and defensive Ryu? Overall, I believe more Americans would be bored to tears by “proper” Ryu play, and would gravitate to something more flashy.

People still going to Waba today? If so, what time do people plan to be there? Trying to bust out some work around the house so I can make it up there today if there’s going to be other players.

Yeah. Whats everyones ETA? I want to get some good casuals in.

This is how::
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Justin quickly evaluated what works and what doesn’t vs Iyo and then once he figured it out it became a lottt harder for Iyo than Justin. Some great games from this!!
And yes Ernesto, Daigo is a beast :stuck_out_tongue:

HAHAHAHA, what do you even say to this?

Guess I’ll be heading up there soon, probably get there around 3

Seriously, Justin beat Iyo becuase he was the better player. Its simple enough. Justin Wong is able to adapt better than nybody. The only one who adapts better is Daigo.

And seriously guys, DON’T SLEEP ON AMERICA!

This is a new era. Our communities are very advanced in our knowledge. Because of youtube and SRK we are learning stuff way quicker than ever. This is the only time we’ve really started a game with Japan and been privy to their knowledge as it happens. Hell, players in Cali have been figuring out new shit since august. A lot of times they knew stuff before the Japanese. This is seriously a new era. I think within a year its going to be a tossup between our top players an their top players. I mean, Justin Wong beat the Japanese and Korean National Champions, only to lose to the dude who got like 9th. OUR National Champion beat there national champions! Think about that. Thats never happened. This is a new era!

I’m not saying our top players are gonna be better, but I’m saying the playing field will be leveled this time.

Aren’t Japan and America neck and neck in Super Street Fighter II Turbo as well?

I don’t think we are neck and neck. They are superior. We are getting a lot closer to there level now. I’m pretty sure Juan and Neto could do somewhat decently over there. They HATE Vegas wall dive trap and its looked down upon lol

They hate O. Sagat as well, from what I’m told. Americans play dirty as hell. :rofl:

No Japan is way better than America. I was on GGPO yesterday and Grahm Wolfe was on as well. He said if you can’t beat him 3 out of 5 games, then you most definitely don’t stand a chance in Japan. Grahm said pretty much that Japan is way better.

We do have a FEW players who can come close to Japan. no disrespect to Neto ( I think he’s really solid, and way better than a lot of EP players) but I don’t think he could do anything in Japan. Japan is very use to playing against Vega, and know how to get around that stuff. Personally I would love to go to Japan and play at Mikado, because everyone says the competition there is legendary.

Alabama was straight, [COLOR=“Red”]ATL takes 2nd & 7th.

All these people claiming they want to get good-solid-better-competitive I have extended my helping had to put together travel plans for local tournaments all year round and it’s always only been East Point willing to travel :annoy:

I hope people don’t feel offended when you see results with ATL in them with no travel plans posted or notification in re-guards to an upcoming tournament.

I have come to the realization that it is a repetitive/redundant act (Same meaning) on my part and that ATL only TALKS about growing and getting better, not actually taking the necessary steps to actually do so. :rolleyes:

BranH. Dispite our previous arguements, some things you said last season about 5 months ago came true, having a sit down with well respected individuals who have played here, attended Final Round continuously, made good friends with our low and top tier talent, I now see it totally from both points of view.

I really feel this with a passion, I cannot force others too.
ATL will NEVER Receive THE RESPECT IT FEEL’s IT DESERVES UNLESS WE BATTLE AWAY FROM HOME SOIL:wink:

Itachi I’ve tried to reach you for the past 3 days about the micro switches, I need them badly sir’s so please call me a.s.a.p let me know if your doing the waba thing tonight so I can hit you up after the S.Carolina departure and thank you sir’[/COLOR]

oh i didnt know. try this number 4044474127 and ill be there today. so let me know so i can wait on you. so who is going to waba 2day?

poonko sorry ass got smashed and me,juan and neto were all like yea he is gonna win but damn daigo the beast…smashing wong.i dont care what ppl say daigo is the best the only thing wong has on him is marvel and thats cause he doesnt play it. jap is better at all sf’s period but mike is right we are somewhat even with them but they still have that edge on us here. its the truth.i just watched this [media=youtube]-k_kTFrzObA[/media] wong is daigo’s shadow and its the truth. daigo is just better. wong just looks nervous and not sure of himself next to daigo.lol you can also tell by the way he played to.3s all over again…lol

marty,juan,neto and wanton are you guys coming to waba today?

Ever since the first time I saw Poongko play, I’ve said that he uses focus way too much. I say this because I do the exact same thing, and I’m trying to break myself from that habit. I go for a focus attack while I’m somewhere around sweep range, hoping that my opponent throws out a move that I can punish. Players online adapt to that and start using armor breaking moves and 2-hit combos. It’s great when they throw out high-risk armor breaking moves, because then I cut down on the focus attacks and start waiting for the punish, but the point is that I know that if they adapt to it, the top players certainly can.

So Daigo is the best in the world…to think i thought poongko was gonna win:lol:. Justin getting second is a surprise beating poongko and iyo. only reason im hatting on justin is he won the SFIV cab. and that pic of him on eventhubs…where that other guy(who i think is ricky ortiz) HAS HIS ARMS WRAPPED AROUND JUSTINS NECK??? GAY!! yes i said it.

2nd and 7th in what game? And who got 2nd and who got 7th? Congrats to them. I got my wife’s family intown as I type.

WaBa’s 4/19 SF4 Results:

1: Omislash
2: Jason L
3: Marli
4: Ice
5: Metal Mike
5: Wizzle
7: Iceman
7: ReOX
9: Lil Kong
9: Dr. EEK
13: Ryusuke

Good Luck to all at IC4 this coming Saturday! Represent my peeps! Get PAID Son! haha

good shit omnislash. u know if i would have came, that would have been me.:rofl: